Desired Interaction on OO

What comments would help you explore widely, synthesise ideas and evolve projects?

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How might we live what OO is about: "from zero to infinity" and "from solo O to togetherness OO"? What interactions do we seek here, so that our creativity is revealed and so that we find a common ground?

I like to think that we cannot see our individual selves (and our creativity as an expression of that) without the other, without the mirror, without the feedback loop. What interactions within the community would be most helpful? How can collectively we be a supportive space for nudging each other to go down the rabit hole of discovery?

When we type a puzzle, we get more clarity on our thinking process. What feedback as a comment do we seek, to move our thinking forward? To expand our puzzle and to go on a wide exploration. And then to synthesise the succint idea. And then to refine the methodology of how it works. So that others can take the idea and implement it, experiment with it in their locations. And finally, what feedback would be helpful, so that we courageously start an experiment, share our secret passion project? And so that we feel supported to share our intermediatery results for that project, our progress, our thought process. And finally what feedback do we need from others, so that we open up our projects for contributions from others, for the help received?


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我也在和一个知识架构师一起做另一个项目......斯蒂芬认识他是因为我介绍了他,他正在开发一个知识系统,可以通过对称、相互学习和他一直在开发的软件将个人与团队联系起来在过去的 15 年里,基于实现计算机行业先驱 Doug Englebert 的愿景。他的第一个组件称为 Indywiki,它允许每个人创建自己的个人知识 wiki。人们在此网络模型中的交互方式是将两个 wiki 连接在一起。但是我和你谈话的知识存储在你和你的个人维基上。所以是的,有冗余,但每个相互对话都保存在每个参与的对话者自己的 wiki 中,驻留在他/她自己的服务器上。

这使我们能够在对话通过不断变化的社交网络发展时对其进行跟踪。模因在这个动态的社交网络中移动,并且随着每次社交相遇而发展。这将与您在这里尝试完成的工作相得益彰。 Gyuri Lajos 是这个系统的发明者,他邀请我加入团队参加现在正在进行的黑客马拉松,但我错过了及时申请。尽管如此,我将我大约 20 年前开发的开放知识共享设计的想法与他的想法结合起来,试图为 21 世纪的人类新知识框架开发一个框架。以下是有关我们的黑客马拉松条目的更多信息:

https://devpost.com/software/indywiki

它还与另一位同事 Roberto Vslenti 博士的工作相得益彰,我与之合作的人工智能科学家 Roberto Vslenti 正在开发一个他称之为 WEquest 的系统,以允许网络需求驱动解决方案,然后奖励解决方案提供商。这个想法是为同情心和服务他人的良性循环建立一个空间,以激励他们。我认为将所有这些项目以及我正在从事的另一个项目 Codo 项目进行社会编织会很有成效,以创建系统变革超级有机体。

I am also working on another project with a Knowledge architect....Stephen knows him because i introduced him, who is developing a knowledge system that can connect the individual to the group through symmathesy, mutual learning, and the software he has been developing for the past 15 years, based on realizing the vision of computer industry pioneer Doug Englebert. His first component is called Indywiki, and allows everyone to create their own personal knowledge wiki. How people interact in this network model is by connecting together two wikis. But the knowledge of my conversation with you is stored on y own personal wiki and yours as well. So yes, there is redundancy, but each mutual conversation is kept in each participating conversants own wiki, residing on his/her own server.

This allows us to track a conversation as it evolves through ever changing social networks. The meme moves its way through this dynamic social network, and with each social encounter evolves as well. This would compliment nicely with what you are trying to accomplish here. Gyuri Lajos is the inventor of this system and he invited me to be on the team for a hackathon going on right now but i missed applying in time. Nevertheless, I’m marrying my ideas of an open knowledge commons design I’ve developed about 20 years ago with his ideas to try to develop a framework for a new knowledge framework for humanity for the 21st century. Here is more info on our hackathon entry:

https://devpost.com/software/indywiki

It also compliments with the work of another colleague, Dr Roberto Vslenti, an AI scientist I collaborate with who is developing a system he calls WEquest to allow network needs to drive solutions and to then reward the solution provider. The idea is to setup a space for virtious cycles of compassion and serving others to be incentified. I think it would be fruitful to socially weave all these projects plus another project I’m working on, the Codo project, to create the system change superorganism.



    : Mindey, Ruta
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Gien,

在深层人类 (DH) 21 世纪意义构建框架中,我一直在开发以帮助人类应对人类世的混乱事件,人类被视为心理-生物-文化的混合物。这场大流行让每个人都意识到每个人的生物学本质是一个由数十亿个细胞和数万亿个微生物组成的复杂超有机体。所有这些疫苗和药物疗法,以及口罩都应对肉眼看不见的威胁。所以我们的感知系统自然会降低优先级。只有我们的认知系统,在累积文化进化 (CCE) 的积累知识的支持下,我们才能看到因果关系。但是大多数外行人没有该领域受过训练的科学家的直觉和经验,因此与它脱节,并且更容易被虚假叙述操纵。认知、文化偏见,如宗教偏见或政治偏见,创造的故事可以胜过科学叙事

对疫苗接种工作的看法非常两极分化,这些观点直接源于对我们个人福祉的同样担忧。这可以用来团结,正如我们在深层人类中所说的,一个共同的人类分母(CHD)。任何两个人都有很多共同点。但是,要获得 CHD 资格,就必须突出统一。由于担心疫苗尚未经过全面测试并可能导致意想不到的后果,许多未接种疫苗的人正在弃权。另一种叙述与阴谋有关,暗示资本家或政府进行邪恶控制。这两者都基于已被证明有害的真实政府和商业行为。看看气候变化,部分原因是化石燃料行业的欺骗性信息和游说。

气候和疫苗否认主义的存在根源于 DH 的另一个大话题,即进步陷阱——进步的阴影面,即进步的意外后果会给世界带来伤害。

进步陷阱是非常真实的,当与批判性思维或对自己认知偏见的认识脱钩时,可能会让我们误入歧途。这种教育本质上是 DH 实践的领域,比以往任何时候都更重要,既可以避免或减轻未来的进步陷阱,也可以减少世界上的两极分化,这种两极分化会增加如此多的社会摩擦,从而导致危险的社会政治延误。时间至关重要的时刻。

从 DH 的角度来看,Interbeing 的概念是非常基本的(Thich Nhat Hanh,Ubuntu),每个人都在生命中进行两次平行的旅程——从出生到死亡的个人旅程,以及数百万年前开始的文化旅程。事实上,对于一个物种来说,任何起点都很难确定。这两者之间的反馈和信息流是理解我们现实的重要框架。在 Stop Reset Go 快速系统变化的声明的核心是这种人类内在转型 (HIT) 和社会外在转型 (SOT) 互补变化的概念,这本身就是相互存在的表达。心脏感觉,头脑思考,身体行动,我们在世界上表现出一些可以被另一个人观察到的可观察影响。从内到外,可以变成另一个内。

In the Deep Humanity (DH) 21st century sense-making framework I’ve been developing to help humanity navigate the chaotic events of the Anthropocene, the human being is seen as a psycho-biological-cultural amalgam. The pandemic is making everyone realize the biological nature of each human being as a complex superorganism composed of billions of cells and trillions of microbes. All these vaccines and drug therapies, as well as masks deal with threats that are invisible to the naked eye. so are naturally deprioritized by our perceptual systems. It’s only our cognitive systems, supported by the accumulated knowledge of Cumulative Cultural Evolution (CCE) that we can even see the cause-effect relationship. But most lay people do not have the intuition and experience of a trained scientist in the field so are disconnected from it, and easier to manipulate with false narratives. Cognitive,cultural biases such as religious ones or polical ones create stories that can outcompete scientific narratives

There are wildly polarized views of the vaccination efforts that directly arise from the very same concerns over our individual wellbeing. This could be used to unite as, as it is what we call in Deep Humanity, a Common Human Denominator (CHD). There are many things any two human beings have in common. However, to qualify as a CHD, it must be salient for unifying. Many of those not getting vaccinated are abstaining due to concerns that the vaccines have not been fully tested and can lead to unintended consequences. Another narrative is conspiracy related and suggests nefarious control by capitalists or the government. Both of these are based upon real governmental and business actions that have proven harmful. Look no further than climate change caused in part by the deceitful messaging and lobbying of the fossil fuel industry.

The existence of both climate and vaccine denialism have their roots in another big topic of DH, progress traps - the shadow side of progress where unintended consequences of progress bring harm in the world.

Progress traps are very real and when decoupled from critical thinking or awareness of one’s own cognitive biases can lead us astray. This education, which is essentially the domain of DH praxis, is more important than ever, both to avoiding or mitigating future progress traps, and to reduce the polarization in the world that adds so much social friction that it causes dangerous socio-political delays at a time when time is of the essence.

From DH perspective, the concept of Interbeing is very fundamental ( Thich Nhat Hanh, Ubuntu) that each human being is taking two parallel journeys in life - that of the individual from birth to death, and the cultural, begun millions of years ago. Indeed, any beginning point is difficult to nail down for a species. The feedbacks and information flows between these two is an important framework to make sense of our reality. In the heart of the Stop Reset Go statement of rapid system change is this notion of complimentary change of both Human Inner Transformation (HIT) and Social Outer Transformation (SOT), which itself is an expression of interbeing. The heart feels, the mind thinks, the body acts and we manifest some observable impact in the world that is observable by another human being. From inner to outer, which can become another inner.



    : 尹与及, Mindey, Ruta
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Gien,

最让我感动的是在地上建立社区,在朋友和合作者之间自由穿梭。我喜欢组建一个我们可以互相支持的组织,有旅行基金,资助土地收购,去旅行见对方和工作一起,在真正有意义的项目上,即建立社区。我们可以适应现有的社区。我们可以致力于这些目标。这就是自由对我的意义。

What inspires me the most is to build communities on the ground,to travel freely between friends and collaborators.Id love to form an org where we can support each other, have a travel fund, finance land acquisition,go travelling seeing each other and working together,on really meaningful projects, which is building communities.We can adapt existing communities.We can dedicate our efforts to these goals.This is what freedom means to me.



    : Mindey, Ruta
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skihappy,

你问这些问题真是太周到了。他们是艰难的。我认为这是一个过程。一方面,我只是时间有限,无法专注于太多事情。我试着扩大我的注意力。我认为这很有价值,支持他人和互动。仅仅知道你们都在那里会有很大的不同。我认为我和 Kostya 可以从我们项目中的许多技能和知识中受益。我知道其他人也一样。我们需要的是一个共同的目标,一个鼓舞人心的闪亮目标,它将我们联系到一个社区。这需要有机地出现。现在,我们应该给大家留一点时间。而且,想法越具体、越实用越好。有用的是用例、示例、教程和文档。更多组织。为每个项目插入一个 wiki 系统真是太棒了,有点像一个站点生成器,具有共性。那里有那些,但是如果这个站点是一个文档中心呢。只是一个想法。我喜欢一种简洁的方式来了解事物。必须精确、缩小、描述并准确说明正在解决的问题。

Thats very thoughtfull of you to ask these questions. They are tough ones.I think its a process. I, for one, simply have limited time to dwell into too many things. I try to expand my focus. I see great value in that, and supporting others and interacting. Just knowing you all out there makes a huge difference. I think me and Kostya can benefit from a lot of the skills and knowledge represented here,in our project. I know same goes for others. What we need is a common goal, an inspiring shining goal, that binds us into a community. That needs to emerge organically. For now,we should leave a little time for all. Also,the more concrete and practical the ideas, the better. What helps is use cases, and examples, and tutorials, and docs.More organization. Be awesome to plugin a wiki system for each project,kinda a site generator,to have commonality.There are those out there,but what if this site is a doc central.Just an idea.I like a concise way to learn about things. Gotta be precise,consize, descriptive and state exactly the problem being solved.



    : Mindey, Ruta, kriz
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skihappy,

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