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The definition of profit

Is profit meaningful for work done in isolation?


There are so many definitions of the word profit, that I am not yet sure what we are talking about.

In the pure accounting sense of business, I think of profit as the difference between the price paid by the consumers and the costs paid by the owners.

From that perspective, if the owner of a fruit tree works to make sure the tree is productive, but eats all the fruit (does not sell any), is any profit created?


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I used socioprofitable in another post but I am sure someone can think of a better word.

Beneficial is too light meaning.


I think we need a new made up word which does not have financial connotations.

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It seems profit is the worst metric for what we want to achieve as it results in short term thinking

We want the optimisation of happiness and equity. Theres a lot of work that people do that isn't directly monetisable but if people stopped a lot of people would become unhappy. We need to track this work too.

We get more of what we measure. This is why I posted the happiness index.

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然而,一项活动的理性最终目标只能在更具体的 KPI 中定义,因为利润率是暂时的——一个时期的利润是另一个时期的损失,它可能是计划性的损失,就像为冬天保存水果一样。因此,最终,活动的成功不能以利润来衡量,而应以目标来衡量。

目标的实现只能通过衡量目标距离的指标来衡量。比如我们要成为航天文明,就需要增加太空的人数,所以,一个KPI,比如太空人数 ,以及它的长期增长(而不是周期性波动),才是对“利润”有意义的定义(如果经济想将利润重新定义为信用,然后奖励“信用”而不是“盈利”)。

顺便说一句,标准定义中的利润并没有失去意义,如果一个人独自工作,即使独自生活有时也可以储蓄,因此衡量在有限时期内节省(获得但未花费)的金额的盈利能力可能是有用的指标,但绝不是最终目标,这是一个长期的多 KPI 目标。

Profit as the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent, seems okay as a definition, however, not okay as the rational ultimate target of activity. Perhaps the ideal capitalist economy would be the one where everyone gets their reasonable profit margin, so they can sustain themselves, while providing something valuable to others.

However, the rational ultimate target of an activity can only be defined in more specific KPIs, because profit margins are transient -- one period's profit is another period's loss, and it may be planned loss, like saving fruits for the winter. So, ultimately, the success of activity mustn't be measured by profits, but in goals.

The achievement of goals can only be measured by metrics that measure distance to a goal. For example, if we want to become a space-faring civilization, we need to increase the number of people in space, so, a KPI like the number of people in space, and its long term growth (rather than periodic fluctuation), is what would be a meaningful definition of "profit" (if the economy would like to redefine profit as credit, and then reward "creditability" rather than "profitability").

Btw., profit in standard definition does not lose meaning, if one is working solo, even living alone makes sense to save at times, so profitability as measure of the amount saved (obtained, but not spent) in a finite period can be a useful metric, but never the ultimate goal, which is an long-term multi-KPI target.