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True Co-Operation

How to spark a co-operation between people and projects?

YAML 问题

I have many friends who work towards a vision of making the world a better place for all. I view all of their projects as working towards a shared vision. Even if some visions are more specific, some are more abstract (specific words to describe a vision change based on progress and often seeing a commonality depends on one's imagination and a set of values, i.e. willigness to collaborate).

I often observe that my friends projects are great at some parts - some are great at technology, some at communication and design, some at networking, fundraising or business models. But only together these projects would create something valuable for all.

What is true cooperation?

Doing together. Not always everyone does an equal part (of the amount of time or quality), because some people are better at doing the ground work, while others - at bringing in resources etc. The level of experience differs. Timing plays a role too, some work needs to happen before others jumps in. I think that's how it is. Intention to "just add some ingredient to the soup" is the most important.

Self-motivated parts. Holocracy is an interesting management model, where all parts are self-motivated to create a whole that's more than parts. Figuring one's personal motivation and a project's vision brings in clarity, before co-operation with others starts.

Clear communication, even with different tools. I notice how some of my friends love text, others - drawings, code or audios. That means, some can explain very clearly typing the words, while others just sketch the concept or send an audio recording (unable to type the text or to sketch). Noticing the differences between people, so that we connect to do together is important. Sometimes that means translating someone's text into a visual or typing the audio into text, so that everyone is more on the same page.

Possible steps for True Cooperation?

  1. Being visible - showcasing each others projects to one another

  2. Being transparent - sharing about Challenges and Needs they have, so that others can help out

  3. Being flexible - welcoming the help and adjusting one's actions to move together

Curious, what do you think about Co-Operation, how does it happen and why it doesn't happen?



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我通过浏览 Redecentralize 注意到所有可用的项目都不兼容。抽象都是不同的。

在没有临界质量的情况下开始和完成一个项目是非常困难的。结果往往是无用的。很多工作需要完成,如果工作不适用或没有完成,甚至很难在其他人的工作上再接再厉。

我们需要一些人开拓前进的道路并创造事物,但同时我们需要就对话和分享想法进行对话。也许那时我们可以构建正确的抽象或工具供彼此使用。

I've noticed from browsing Redecentralize that all the projects available are incompatible. The abstractions are all different.

It's very difficult to start and complete a project without critical mass. The result is often independent to the point of uselessness. A lot of work needs to be done and it's difficult to even build on other people's work if the work is not applicable or not finished enough.

We need some people to forge a path ahead and make things but at the same time we need to have conversations on conversations and sharing of ideas. Maybe then we can build the right abstractions or tools for eachother to use.



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chronological,
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Gyuri Lajos 一直致力于的 Indihub 生态系统从本质上促进了可发现性。每个人公开分享的想法中内置的知识共享促进了将想法扩展到网络,而无需人们加入和注册。入职人员自然是一个缓慢而耗时的过程。例如,这个帖子和这个群组中的所有帖子只有少数加入的人才能访问。如果该软件被移植到 fission.code 并公开,那么任何拥有 Fission 帐户的人都可以搜索、查找和回复此对话线程。

The Indihub ecosystem that Gyuri Lajos has been working on intrinsically promotes discoverability. That knowledge sharing built into everyone’s publicly shared ideas promotes scaling an idea to the network without people having to join and signup. Onboarding people is naturally a slow and time consuming process. For instance, this post and all the posts in this group are only accessible to the small number of people who have joined. If this software was ported to fission.code and made public, then anyone with Fission account can search, find and respond to this conversation thread.



    : Ruta
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Gien,

也许我们需要将想法分解成更多的子问题。

然后每个人都可以有一个工作代表的收件箱。

我们需要物理空间来进行托管。我们的工作介绍。值交叉引用。

如果我可以进行测验并填写我感兴趣的单词,那么也许我可以与正在研究相同想法的人一起加入。

也许我们需要与类别 Mindey 进行额外的交互。比如“我支持这个”和“我有兴趣做这个”

Perhaps we need to break ideas up into more subproblems.

Then each person can have an inbox of work representation.

We need physical spaces for colocation. Presentations of our work. Value cross referencing.

If I could do a quiz and fill out words I am interested in then maybe I can be joined with people who are looking into the same ideas.

Perhaps we need additional interactions possible with categories Mindey. Like "I support this" and "I am interested in working on this"



    : Ruta
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chronological,

人们如何学会想象和设想,完善愿景?我想说不是每个人都有这样的技能。甚至一个简单的问题“你想要什么?”取决于情况和时间点。

对我来说,构想是一个过程而不是一件事。然后,当人们一起踏上发现愿景的旅程时,共同构想是可能的。在这里,合作不需要等待每个人的个人愿景完美,而是一个可以共同研究的空间。

How can people learn to imagine and envision, refine the Visions? I'd say not everyone has such a skill. Even a simple question of "What do you want?" depends on a situation and point in time.

To me, envisioning is a process rather than a thing. Then, envisioning together is possible, when people go on the journey of discovering that Vision together. Here, co-operation does not need to wait for a perfection of everyone's individual vision, but rather a space where researching together is possible.



    : Mindey
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Ruta,

通常,将团队聚集在一起的是可执行的、可信的愿景。

如果某个世界愿景足够可信、有价值和可执行(=真正意义上的可操作,不是探索意义上的,而是实施意义上的)。

该愿景通常由某人提供,通常是那些已经想出“方法”并分享详细描述“方法”的“想法”的人,从而使愿景具有可信度。例如,将火箭降落在其支架上的想法只是一个想法,但是有了自动控制原理,对于可以在这种信念的基础上进行真正合作的人们来说,这是一个可信的想法。

同样,一份关于如何创建去中心化计算机或太阳帆和高功率激光器的白皮书可能会让人们相信某些事情(例如去中心化治理或到达其他恒星)是可能的,并且值得为之努力。这如何进一步发展,通常取决于具体的沟通行为:友谊、领导、合作等。

提出一个可执行的愿景和写一个好主意一样难,然而,它是我们每个人脑海中出现的假设,如果我们做一些事情,更大的事情 将由此产生。 :)

不能低估“如何”的详细描述:一个人可以抽象地解释一个想法,认为一个人已经描述了它的所有内容,但其他人不会理解它,除非你在一个过程的步骤中描述它以及会发生什么结果——然后,他们的眼睛亮了起来,他们想“哦,是的,这是个好主意,让我们去做吧!”,然后可能的合作开始了。

Usually, it is the executable, believable vision, that brings teams together.

If a certain world vision is sufficiently believable and valuable, and executable (=actionable in the true sense, not in the sense of exploration, but in the sense of implementation).

That vision, is usually provided by someone, usually, the people who have figured out the 'how', and shared an 'idea' that describes the 'how' in detail, and thus gives the believability to the vision. For example, the idea of landing a rocket back on its stand, is just an idea, but with the automated control principles, it is a believable idea to the people who can then have true cooperation on the basis of that belief.

Similarly, a whitepaper about how to create a decentralized computer, or a solar sail and high powered lasers, may make people believe that certain things (like decentralized governance, or reaching other stars) is possible, and worth working for. How this evolves further, often depends on the specific acts of communication: friendships, leaderships, co-working, etc.

Coming up with an executable vision is as hard as writing a good idea, however, it is something that comes up in each of our minds as hyptheses, that if we do something a little, something bigger is gonna result from that. :)

Describing the 'how' in detail can't be understated: one can explain an idea abstractly, thinking that one has described all there is to it, but others won't understand it until you describe it in steps of a process and what happens as a result -- then, their eyes light up, and they think "oh yeah, that's a great idea, let's do it!", and then a possible cooperation begins.



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