Socialising making money

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Society has problems that have rewards, society should openly share ways of making money

YAML 想法

Making money is a fiercely guarded secret right now. It doesn't have to be. It could be openly shared to benefit society with competition.

I propose a marketplace of needs with monetary amounts shared. You should be able to earn money as-listed by simply doing a piece of work that is listed.

Jobs are a scam. They pay you a lump sum and work you to excess of what the lump sum pays for.

In essence, this idea is to monetize every task that a job involves and share the numbers.



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IT 合同可能会花费数百万英镑用于开发云系统。

如果 Infinity 家族有足够多的人聚集,我们可以对信息系统的公共招标进行投标。

IT contracts can cost millions of £££ for development of cloud systems.

If enough people on Infinity family congregated we could do bids on public tendor for information systems.



    : Mindey
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chronological,

我认为竞争是问题所在。合作比较好。到目前为止,它更有效,并且可以解决您描述的所有问题,并且不会破坏人,而是使每个人都走向繁荣。但是,那是要解决的错误问题。你不能告诉人们,现在就合作。不会工作。它是将主导文化转变为更共享的多样性的问题。我最好停在这里。

I think competition is the problem. Its better to collaborate. Its more efficient by far, and takes care of all the problems you describe, and does not destroy people but upbrings everyone to prosperity. But, thats the wrong problem to be solving. You cant tell people, collaborate now. Not gonna work. Its the matter of changing dominant culture to a more sharing variety. I better stop here.


//竞争对手会看到他们从//购买的商品

如果您的业务完全取决于供应商的保密性,那么您的业务距成为商品仅一步之遥。

// competitors will see who they are buying from //

if your business depends solely on your supplier secrecy, then your business is one step away from being a commodity.



    : Mindey
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chronological,

竞争是一件好事。

破坏想要与您做同样事情的其他人也破坏了竞争。而且公司讨厌合法竞争。他们宁愿成为垄断者。垄断实际上是效率低下的。

我担心在透明的市场中,一家公司会启动并雇用人员来接管所有工作,而没有其他人有机会接管工作。

我认为社会需要摆脱竞争这一观念,以此来破坏竞争。当有多个人提供相同的服务时,这是很好的。因此,他们可以在价格,质量和品牌上竞争。但是,破坏竞争并制造护城河的想法确实有害。我们应该有一个人们不惧怕变得无关紧要的社会。

Competition is a good thing.

Destroying other people who want to do the same thing as you is also destroying competition. And companies hate legitimate competition. They would rather be a monopoly. Monopolies are really inefficient.

I worry with a transparent marketplace, a company would startup and hire people to pick up all the work and give nobody else a chance to pick up the work.

I think society needs to escape this idea as competition as a means of destroying your competition. it's good when there are multiple people offering the same services. So they can compete on price, quality and branding. But this idea of destroying your competition and creating moats is really harmful. We should have a society where people don't fear being made irrelevant.



    : Mindey
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chronological,

Yahoo SM(Google AdWords的竞争对手)was曾经是一个透明市场,它“允许您查看要与谁进行出价以及他们对什么进行出价,因此您可以确切地知道排名和排名。将会支付”。 :)

那么,您的建议是某种开放数据库或市场订单汇总,对吗?它绝对与您的WantsfilesWant Manifestos的想法有关。 / 974 /制作所有所有人想要的通用清单#1599114639)。

问题在于人们的隐私权:由于多种原因,人们并不总是希望自己的订单可见:

-竞争对手将看到他们从谁那里购买商品 -意识形态不同会互相鄙视

(虽然他们彼此不友善)

那么,您如何解决呢?人们应该有一个大的开放市场,知道在那儿分享的东西是公开的,然后他们可以有选择地加密订单,或者您会怎么建议?

考虑一下-实际上,每个搜索查询都是一个市场订单,我认为[“类别”是“查询”:)显然,谷歌拥有一直有很多查询,并且如果每个“查询”都是一个类别,则会对其进行分层分组,以用链接摘录(市场供应)填充这些搜索订单(市场需求)。

通过这种方式,我们可以看到每个请求-响应(或客户端-服务器)系统都可以看作是订单执行设备。由于履行订单的成本通常是计算时间,人工时间和加工时间,因此您可以照此衡量这些订单的成本。例如:

-邀请朋友参加聚会->(仅限人类) -用现成的哑咖啡机冲杯->(仅限机器) -购买比特币->(仅用于计算) -在亚马逊上购买产品->(计算,人机,机器)

不难想象,鉴于对世界订单的这种开放知识,就有可能弄清楚在哪里赚钱,但是区分“计算货币”与“人货币”与“货币”也很重要。机器钱”,因为人脑(具有当前BCI功能)将永远不会挖掘机器可以拥有的比特币数量,计算机(具有当前I / O功能)将永远不会与有意去的朋友一起散步像人类一样一起做某事。

也许令人惊讶,但是大多数法定货币(称为“人为金钱”)可以通过简单地建立有意义的友谊来赚取,而Facebook可能正在尝试填补这些订单(每个人的交互行为历史都作为长期需求订单,以及试图将这些订单作为补给订单的每日供稿),赚钱最多的订单是在BS(银行部门,法定货币的来源)和B2B供需市场中做出的。

想象一下,如果银行部门会从BoardEx(以及其他金融政治数据库的政治需求(或“需求命令”)。我认为那将是出价最高,并有机会赚取法定货币的地方之一。但是,的确,尽管有关政策的信息非常公开,但是具有特定工作需求的下游订单却很少,因为下游订单通常位于透明度较低的各种B2B市场上。

Yahoo SM (competitor of Google AdWords) was once a transparent market with "allows you to see who you are bidding against and what they are bidding, so you know exactly where you will rank, and how much you will pay". :)

So, what you're proposing, is some kind of open database or aggregation of market orders, right? It definitely relates to your idea of Wantsfiles and Wants Manifestos.

A problem with that is people's privacy: people don't always want their orders be visible due to multiple reasons:

  • competitors will see who they are buying from
  • ideologically different will despise each others (while they are friendly to each other not knowing)

So, how do you resolve that? Should people have one big open market, where they know that what they share there is public, and then they can have encrypted orders optionally, or how else would you propose?

Think about it -- in fact, every search query is a market order, and I think, "Categories" are "Queries" :) Obviously, Google has been getting lots of queries, and if every "Query" is a category, it has been hierarchically grouping them to fill these search orders (market demand) with link excerpts (market supply).

Thinking that way, we can see that every request-response (or client-server) system can be viewed as order-filling apparatus. Since the cost of fulfilling an order is usually computational-time, and human-time, and machining-time, you could measure the cost of said orders as such. For example:

  • ask a friend to a party -> (human-only)
  • make a cup with ready dumb coffee machine -> (machine-only)
  • buy bitcoin -> (computational-only)
  • buy a product on Amazon -> (computational, human, machine)

It is easy to imagine that, given such open knowledge about world's orders, it would be possible to figure out where to make money, but it is also important to make a distinction between "compute-money" and "human-money" and "machine-money", because human brain (with current BCI capabilities) will never mine the amount of bitcoin that a machine can, and a computer (with current I/O capabilities) will never go for a walk with a friend with intentions to go doing something together, as humans can.

It may be surprising, but most fiat money (call it "human-defined money"), can be made by simply making meaningful friendships, and while Facebook may be trying to fill those orders (with everyone's interaction behavior histories as standing demand orders, and daily feeds trying to fill those orders as supply orders), the most money-making orders is being made within the BS (banking sector, where the fiat money originates) and B2B supply-demand marketplaces.

Imagine if banking sector would have a social network from data like on BoardEx (and from other financio-political databases), and political needs (or "demand orders") of leaders to have certain securities (say "policies") were on the market. I think that would be one of those places with greatest bids, and opportunities in making fiat money. However, indeed, while information about policies is quite open, the downstream orders with specific work demands are less so, because they are often on various B2B marketplaces with less transparency.



    : Ruta
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Mindey,

//您是否假设必须以相同的价格来评估相同的需求?对于一个因饥饿而死的人来说,在沙漠中喝一杯水可能是一小块金子。 //

我应该能够出价愿意为市场中的服务或产品支付的金额。我应该能够列出我愿意出售的物品。金融业很难做到这一点。因此,我们需要一种社会化的赚钱机制。我怀疑这将是一个拥有巨大市场的电话应用程序。每个工作都被提炼为一系列任务。

没有市场秘密。我应该能够通过查看市场并了解通过执行不同任务可以赚到的钱来弄清楚如何赚钱。

// Are you assuming that same needs got to be valued at same price? A glass of water in a desert may be worth a lump of gold for a person who is dying out of starvation. //

I should be able to bid an amount I'm willing to pay for a service or product in a marketplace. I should be able to list an item I am willing to sell for. The finance industry makes this very hard to do for arbitrary things. So we need a socialized mechanism for making money. I suspect it would be a phone app with an extremely large marketplace. Every job is distilled to a set of tasks.

There would be no market secrets. I should be able to work out how to make money by looking at the market place and seeing the money I can earn by doing different tasks.


//我提出了一个共享货币量的需求市场。 //

您是否假设必须以相同的价格来评估相同的需求?对于一个因饥饿而死的人来说,在沙漠中喝一杯水可能是一小块金子。

//现在,赚钱是一个严加保护的秘密。不一定是。它可以公开共享,以通过竞争使社会受益。

关于金钱的疯狂之处在于,它是经济交流的媒介,而赚钱本质上是使利益和共同期望保持一致。

// I propose a marketplace of needs with monetary amounts shared. //

Are you assuming that same needs got to be valued at same price? A glass of water in a desert may be worth a lump of gold for a person who is dying out of starvation.

// Making money is a fiercely guarded secret right now. It doesn't have to be. It could be openly shared to benefit society with competition.

The crazy thing about money, is that it's a medium of economic communication, and making money is essentially, aligning interests and mutual expectations... How does this idea solve the fact that not everyone is equally socially connected?


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