Water Drops Travel Through Bodies and Earth

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Concept for art promoting inter-dependence: Crowdsourced stories using Water Drops metaphor

YAML 想法

Showcasing a cycle of water in our human bodies, animal bodies and the waters on Earth from a lense of a water drop telling stories.

People imagine how would that feel to be a "Water Drop traveling in their location", and this way they emphatise with the water, they imagine the pollution water is experiencing but also the wisdom water collects when it travels through all bodies of humans and animals, and the waters themselves. Finally, they submit "water drops stories" as text, songs, images collage or video on the website. All stories overlap with the same water cycle: rain, body, rivers, oceans. Repeat.

Spectators can submit their own reflections to this ocean of stories and realise "Oh, wow, yeah, we are really just water drops, we are all the same. How could I protect the waters myself? Hmm."



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//('将尝试添加直接在问题下添加项目的能力)

是的,好主意 [Mindey]!

那么我的综合能力是否有所提高? :D 看,我更新了这个想法并添加了一个父问题(包含我们想法谜题的摘要!)和一个我第一次尝试的项目:) 哈!

// ('ll try to add an ability to add projects directly under questions)

yeah, great idea [Mindey]!

So am I improving on my synthesis? :D see, I updated this idea and added a parent question (with a summary of our idea puzzles!) and a project with my first attempts :) ha!



    : Mindey
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Ruta,

// 如果不是在一个想法从思想泡泡演变成更具体的东西之前将谜题添加到相同的空间中,那么如何使用这个空间? //

嗯,如果是拼图,应该属于问题(会尽量增加直接在问题下添加项目的能力) :) 而且,正如你所说,“水即智能”是一个主题,所以,一个类别,所以一个问题,或者更确切地说,试图问_“我应该如何继续探索这个我还没有完全充实的概念?”_(最好在发布之前充实想法,这样它就不是一个问题“如何这会起作用吗?”但答案是“这就是它的工作方式,这是详细信息”)。我想我需要更容易地转换类型(即,在问题/想法/项目之间转换内容)......

// 也许那么想法甚至有孩子,是的!和项目,耶耶!和他们项目中的各种创作者然后可以回答细节//

是的,他们可能是。 :) 期待这个主题下的项目。 ^_^

// how else to use this space, if not for adding puzzles into same space until an idea evolves from a thought bubble into something more concrete? //

Well, if it's a puzzle, it should belong to questions ('ll try to add an ability to add projects directly under questions) :) And, as you said, "Water as intelligence" is a theme, so, a category, so a question, or rather, an attempt to ask "how should I continue my exploration with this concept that I don't yet quite fleshed out?" (ideas better be fleshed out before posting, so that it's not a question "how would this work?" but an answer "this is how it would work, and here are the details"). I guess I'll need to make it easier to transition the type (i.e., convert content between question/idea/project)...

// perhaps then idea has even children, yay! and projects, yay yay! and various creators in their projects then can answer the details //

Yeah, they could be. :) Looking forward to projects under this theme. ^__^



    : Ruta
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Mindey,

// 但是,您没有描述如何在您的想法中建立这个“水滴”。所以,看起来你更像是在这里集思广益,而不是分享一个可验证的想法。

是的,我的目标不是验证,而是一起想象和共同创造:) 这很有趣。如果不是在一个想法从思想泡泡演变成更具体的东西之前在同一空间中添加谜题,那么如何使用这个空间?也许那时的想法甚至还有孩子,是的!和项目,耶耶!和他们项目中的各种创作者然后可以回答细节

我非常喜欢你关于“成为溶剂”的观点。是的,巨滴是和平社会的溶剂。看?我们只是将两个拼图连接在一起:)

// However, you didn't describe how this "drop" would be erected in your idea. So, looks like more you trying to brainstorm right here, rather than sharing a verifiable idea.

yes I aim not for verification, but imagining together and cocreating :) it's fun. how else to use this space, if not for adding puzzles into same space until an idea evolves from a thought bubble into something more concrete? perhaps then idea has even children, yay! and projects, yay yay! and various creators in their projects then can answer the details

I like your point on "be a solvent" a lot. yes, Giant Drops being Solvents for Peaceful Society. see? we just connected two puzzles together :)


// 创造一种体验,让观众进入一个巨大的水滴,感觉就像在茧里,在流动的水中是安全的,这是多么酷

是的,会很酷。这让我想起了“Black Hole Dome”的想法,这是一种如何在天空中创造体验的方法的想法。但是,您没有描述如何在您的想法中建立这个“水滴”。所以,看起来你更像是在这里集思广益,而不是分享一个可验证的想法。

// 我想说我的想法提出“在家”和“流动性”作为我们可以从水中学习的心理状态

啊,我明白了...... [Ruta],试图在社会中变得敏感、有同理心和“流动性”似乎就像是水分子或一种很好的 溶剂 /wiki/溶剂)。

也许英语将“解决”这个词赋予两个含义(1)液化其中的固体的含义,以及(2)解决问题的含义,暗示......这个想法并不是全新的(如果没有呢?智力,是什么解决问题?),但也许你的艺术可以。

// how cool it would be to create an experience where a spectator enters a giant drop, and feels like inside a cocoon, safe inside a moving water

Yeah, would be pretty cool. That reminds me of the idea of "Black Hole Dome", which is an idea of a method how to create an experience a black hole in the sky. However, you didn't describe how this "drop" would be erected in your idea. So, looks like more you trying to brainstorm right here, rather than sharing a verifiable idea.

// I'd say my idea proposes "being home" and "fluidity" as mental states that we can learn from water

Ah, I see... [Ruta], trying to be sensitive, empathic and "fluid" within society may seem like being that water molecule or a fluid that is a great solvent.

Perhaps the English language attributing two meanings to the word "solve" (1) the meaning of liquifying solids within it, and (2) the meaning of cracking a problem, hints that... the idea is not entirely new (what if not intelligence, is what solves problems?), but perhaps your art could be.


[Mindey] 是的,我喜欢疏通堵塞的想法!睡觉前,我想着体内的水:压力会使血液呈酸性吗?认为积极将血液变成正常的 pH 值或喝碱性水来清理。我当然不知道这是不是真的!

然后今天早上我问了自己一个不同的问题:水对我来说是什么? “就像有家的感觉,我可以和它互动。水是家。智能(过去几代人),住在家里的图书馆。”

从这里,我记得昨天我在玩项目名称(在我在 o2oo 上分享这个想法之前) - 滴水不断涌现,立陶宛语中的“lasai”。滴滴是必不可少的比喻,下雨天,感觉智慧来了;当我哭泣时也是如此——通过情感表达,有些东西想要出来。我经常用“水滴”来比喻创造力:想法谜题就像水滴,当许多水滴聚集在一起时,就有了一片海洋:一个想法的主体。

然后今天我又想到了水滴,创造一种体验是多么酷,让观众进入一个巨大的水滴,感觉就像在茧里,在流动的水中是安全的,就像生活一样,当创造力/想象力创造出茧时穿越混乱。这可以被创造为一个雕塑——走进一个巨大的水滴形状的喷泉,但即使你周围下雨,你仍然保持干燥。或 VR 当然可以提供帮助。但我的能力/时间有限,所以我可能会探索关于这个主题的视频、音频、讲故事。

所以,在“水即智能”的主题下,我想探索“体验水是什么感觉”主题:“家是安全的”,然后水旅行(“当奶奶,妈妈和孩子在同时”)。

回答你的最后一个问题 [Mindey],我想说我的想法提出“在家”和“流动性”作为我们可以从水中学习的心理状态,有了这些状态,我们人类将在生活中和平地移动并互动以一种欢迎/关怀和流畅的方式彼此相处,因此,怀着这样的意图,我们将创造一个和平的社会(没有污染,没有任何人的劣势)。它基本上是关于一种核心感觉和核心价值,揭示在人们心中,它会伴随着人们的日常生活,然后影响他们的决定。

[Mindey] yeah, I love the idea of unclogging! before sleep, I thought about water inside the body: does stress make blood acidic? think positive to turn blood to normal pH or drink alkaline water to clean up. surely I don't know if it's true at all!

then this morning I asked a different question to myself: What is Water to me? "Like feeling home, I can interact with it. Water is home. Intelligence (of past generations), a library that lives in the home."

from here, I remembered that yesterday I was playing with the project names (before I shared this idea here on o2oo) - drops kept coming up, "lasai" in Lithuanian. Drops are an essential metaphor, when it rains, I feel that wisdom is coming; same way when I cry - through emotional expression something wants to come out. I often use "drops" as a metaphor for creativity: idea puzzles are like drops, when many drops come together, there is an ocean: a body of the idea.

then today I thought about drops again, how cool it would be to create an experience where a spectator enters a giant drop, and feels like inside a cocoon, safe inside a moving water, just like life is, when creativity/imagination creates that cocoon to move through chaos. this could be created as a sculpture - step inside a fountain that has a giant drop shape but inside you stay dry, even if it rains all around you. or VR of course could help. but I'm limited with my abilities/time, so I may explore video, audio, storytelling on this theme.

so, following "water as intelligence" theme, I'd like to explore "experience what is it like to be water" theme: "home is safe", and then water travels ("being a grandmother, a mom and a child at the same time").

to answer your last question [Mindey], I'd say my idea proposes "being home" and "fluidity" as mental states that we can learn from water, and with these states, we, humans, would move peacefully through life and interact with one another in a welcoming/caring and fluid way, and thus with such intention we would create a peaceful society (with no pollution, no disadvantage of anyone). it is basically about a core feeling and a core value to reveal in people's hearts, that would stay with them daily, and then shape their decisions.



    : Inyuki
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Ruta,

// 就我个人而言,这个想法是在我食物中毒并被迫更换我喝的水时产生的

哦,亲爱的,我明白了。很高兴你只喝了水;) 事实上,水是一种很好的溶剂,可以清除通路,包括代谢通路,因此,https://0oo.li/method/948/shapeflow 的结论之一://0oo.li/method/948/shapeflow)的想法,将是使用液体疏通和清除形状流动的路径。

// 互动体验,观众必须品尝不同的水

那么,不同的水会有什么不同的味道呢?我觉得不同品牌的瓶装水没有太大区别,肯定有一些矿泉水品牌的盐浓度更高,但那是那些盐的味道,而不是水本身。关于不同水的质量,您自己注意到了哪些差异,并认为其他人也应该(比如通过这种艺术)?

我的问题可能有点好奇,因为我试图了解您想法的关键:您建议采取什么行动方案,以及如何实现这种影响? (使蝴蝶效应发生的想法的本质是什么?如果制作了这样的艺术,为什么会发生蝴蝶效应?)

// to me personally this idea came when I had a food poisoning and was pushed to change the water I drink

Oh dear, I see. Happy you got away with just water ;) In fact, water, being a good solvent, clears pathways, including metabolic pathways, so, one of the conclusions from https://0oo.li/method/948/shapeflow idea, would be to use a liquid to unclog and clear pathways for shapes to flow.

// interactive experience where spectators have to taste different water

And so, how would the different water taste differently? I don't feel much difference between different brands of bottled water, there definitely are some mineral water brands with higher concentrations of salts, but that's the taste of those salts then, not the water per se. What kind of differences had you yourself noticed, and think that others should too (say, via such art), about the quality of different water?

My question may be a bit inquisitive, because I'm trying to get at the crux of your idea: what course of action do you propose, and how it would work to achieve that impact? (What's the essence of the idea that would make the butterfly effects happen? Why would the butterfly effects happen, given such art is made?)


[Mindey] 哦,我还不知道媒体呢!当我开始一个项目时(开始搞混这个概念)然后我就会知道它会是什么样子:) 第一个想法当然是视频、音频、口语、一些数字体验。虽然对我个人来说,这个想法是在我食物中毒并被迫更换我喝的水时产生的,所以也许某种互动体验让观众必须品尝不同的水(甚至进行矿泉水饮食),有趣的

[Mindey] oh I don't know about the medium yet! when I start a project (start messing around with the concept) then I will know how it's going to look like :) first thoughts were of course, video, audio, spoken word, some digital experience. although to me personally this idea came when I had a food poisoning and was pushed to change the water I drink, so perhaps some sort of interactive experience where spectators have to taste different water (or even go on a mineral water diet), would be interesting


// 水构成我们的身体和水构成地球的统一点;水一直在运动,遍及我们的身体和整个星球;一点,水是智慧,没有它生命就不会存在。

[Ruta],我明白了。那么,如何使这些点变得可感知呢?这件艺术品是雕像、拼贴画、视频(如杰森席尔瓦的)还是其他什么?这门艺术将如何运作?

// a unifing point that water makes up our body and water makes up the planet Earth; a point that water is always in motion, throughout our body and throughout the planet; a point that water is intelligence without which life wouldn't exist.

[Ruta], I see. And so, how would these points be made perceivable? Would this piece of art be a statue, a collage, a video (like Jason Silva's), or something else? How would this art work?


关于渗入皮肤的雨水量是正确的。是的,那张照片作为一幅诗意的画面进入了我的脑海。

我也在考虑我喝水如何塑造我的想法的影响(目前,当切换到只喝矿泉水时,现在第 12 天,我感觉更平静了)。所以也许喝水和淋在皮肤上是一个更好的例子,表明相互依存。

// 在“相互依赖”的概念中,这门艺术的目标是使体验成为可能(否则就不能体验)

嗯,水构成我们的身体和水构成地球的统一点;水一直在运动,遍及我们的身体和整个星球;一点,水是智慧,没有它生命就不会存在。

我还想证明水会影响情绪状态(我的饮水示例),情绪状态会影响决策(创建什么项目,消费什么产品)。我在这里做一个概括,我们体内的水会使人类产生破坏性的想法/建设性的想法。我们喝的水越干净,我们的思想就越干净,我们创造的行业就越干净。反之,水污染得越多,思想的破坏性就越大,对工业的污染就越大。在这里,我想补充一下负面情绪如何导致破坏性想法,从而污染行业。

欢迎反馈!这是一个正在做的草案:)

True in regards to the amount of rain soaking into skin. And yes that picture came into my mind as a poetic picture.

I was also thinking about an effect of how water I drink shapes my thoughts (currently, experiencing this when swithched to drinking only mineral water, the 12th day now and I feel calmer). So perhaps drinking water vs to rain on skin is a better example that shows interdependence.

// what thing within the concept of "interdependence" would this art aim to make experience-able (that is not experience-able otherwise)

hmm, a unifing point that water makes up our body and water makes up the planet Earth; a point that water is always in motion, throughout our body and throughout the planet; a point that water is intelligence without which life wouldn't exist.

also I'd like to show that water impacts emotional state (my water drinking example) and emotional state impacts decisions (what projects are created, what products are consumed). I'm making a generalisation here that water in our bodies makes humans to come up with destructive thoughts/constructive thoughts. the cleaner the water we drink, the cleaner the thoughts we think, the cleaner the industries we create. and the opposite, the more polluted the water, the more destructive the thoughts, the more polluting the industries. here I want to add how negative emotions contribute to destructive thoughts, and thus polluting industries.

feedback welcome! this is a draft in-doing now :)



    : Mindey
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Ruta,

// 下雨时,水会渗入我的皮肤,流入穿过我身体的河流

渗入人皮肤的雨水量极少。这是某种诗意的画面吗?那么,假设一个人创作了这样一件艺术品——它会产生什么样的社会效果?我记得光年立方的想法,其目的(作为一座211.5米高的巨大建筑)是为了让人们体验这个数字一光年的米数。这个想法是用那个立方毫米的数量建造一座建筑物——解决方案——建筑物和毫米都是宏观的,人眼一目了然,这解决了想象或可视化的问题。务实的附加效果是它会吸引旅行者,因此它甚至可以收回成本。

如果这门艺术的目标是类似的知觉进步,那么在“相互依存”的概念中,这门艺术的目标是使经验成为可能(否则就不能经验)。有什么理由可以让人们在这里体验到通常不容易体验的体验?

// When it rains, water soaks into my skin and emerges into rivers that travel through my body

The amount of rainwater that soaks into people's skin extremely extremely small. Is this some kind of poetic picture? So, suppose one creates such a piece of art, -- what social effect it would achieve? I remember the idea of Light-Year Cube, the purpose of which (being a huge 211.5 meter height building) were to be to allow one to experience that number of meters that make up one light year. The idea was to make a building with that number of cubic millimetres, -- the solution -- both the building and the millimetre are macroscopic, visible at a glance of a human eye, which solves the problem of imagining or visualizing. Pragmatic added effect was it would attract travellers, so it could even probably pay for itself.

If this art is aiming for similar perceptual advances, then what thing within the concept of "interdependence" would this art aim to make experience-able (that is not experience-able otherwise). What is the rationale, that would allow here to make one experience what usually is not easily experienced?


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