Ecosystem of communities

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A network of communities, each governed as a dao, mutually vested, regulated thru nft contracts, neighbor helping neighbor, building common economy as interlinked net of economies

YAML 想法

Suppose, we have a set of tools for creating a typical DAO of a community in the net. Also, we have tools to create monetary system, trade, organize work, collect funds for public projects, do the governance. The rules and bylaws are part of an NFT contract. But, first of all, how would the land be acquired? That can be done by creating a coin, raising the money.

How would everyone be vested and work be done to build the commune?

By the rules of a DAO formed around the community. Heres one scenario proposed. A coin is issued based on square footage of the land. Stakeholders invest either money or promise, a contract, to perform work in the future. When enough money raised, land is acquired, and work begins. As workers fulfill their contracts, they gain shares, and the original investor shares get diluted, but the land value grows, the coin appreciates and it all balances out, and hopefully better then that. In meantime, community uses online tools to manage the money and govern itself.

Easier said then done. Its hard to raise money. Any ideas?

Yes. Suppose, there are other communities, in a supportive net, that are willing to invest into the budding community. Specifically, another community would vest funds to buy enough coins for land purchase.

Why?

Many reasons. The main one is the common culture. The other one, its a nobble deed. But its better then that. The risk to each member of a donor community is spread out. The decisions are made communally, so common sense prevails to minimize risks even further. But theres even better upside. Its the common prosperity and freedom. As the new community prospers, supported by interested and vested neighbors, and workers fulfill their work contracts, the coin grows. Workers gain shares and ownership, donors, most likely, gain upside on their investment. Besides, that investment is always backed by the land value. As their shares get diluted by workers shares, the share value grows. Everything should always balance out, with risks spread out, and responsibility shared.

The real motivation is freedom!!!

So, now everyone in both communities has shares and coins to go along with it. How would they use those shares? They can come and live on that land, they can trade it for goods and services, or they can get cash, dollars or some other coin.
But imagine, there are many communities in the network, each with its own economy and rate of exchange. SO, anyone can trade shares in one community for shares in another one , on the other side of the globe, and go live there for a while, and learn a few things. Perhaps someone got tired of living on the beach windsurfing and decides to go ski in the mountains. NO PROBLEM. Safe travels, dont have to bring much, we got you covered. Oh yeah, the network has a travel fund if help is needed.

In closing, id like to say the growing bubble of crypto currency is not sustainable without some tangible goods and services produced on the ground. All activity on the cloud is overhead. We have to support and build economies and communities on the ground. Might as well build them based on the culture of sharing and freedom.

What would it take to come true?

Its a scalable, self organizing structure. Once its seeded,itll have life of its own. Unstoppable, outside of control of any control freak. The key is to provide the right tools to get it started, besides planting the spark of an idea, but I think that spark been striked. What we have to do is build supporting tools, and get a few experiments going as proof of concept. The tools should include types of DAO contracts, for typical use cases. These can be traded on the blockchain and developed by community. Still, a few seeds are needed. There must be organizational tools to empower these budding communities to create and run their economies, to create monetary systems, systems of responsibilities and governance. I envision types of organizations floating on the blockchain as an ecosystem supporting the net. Any reasonably intelligent person would be able to compose an organization for his use case out of types supplied by other communities, proven and tested, without any coding experience. Everyone needs a voting or decision making system, a community forum or other comm tools, tasking system, monetary system. Theres a lot of commonality.

How would communities keep from turning into rigid corp like hierarchical organizations?

Its a cultural thing. Yes, many people dont have any other experience but hierarchical institutions. However, the tools we would provide would be geared towards flat grassroot types. Im also convinced that tools can be built to steer communities towards the happy middle. Its a dynamic balance, that should be maintained by each community, thru a democratic process. In general, people like freedom,given a chance. We will give them that chance. I simply trust the good side over evil.

So, lets get busy.

Its a lot of work, organizing, connecting, learning, coding, physically building, but mostly loving and living, in freedom.

Heres a sample of a proposed DAO contract for a single community:

INTRO The semi-sentient DA👾 uses land ownership and contract law to slowly gain control of all the vertically-integrated supply-chains required to host itself and all the workers it needs to survive and propagate.

BOOT The DA👾 searches for Land suitable to build permacultured eco-villages. The DA👾 mints fungible 1 earthChange Coin for each ft² of Land. The DA👾 then auctions those earthChange to buy that Land. The total supply of earthChange is limited by ft² of Land. earthChange does not represent Land Ownership!

START The DA👾 now issues Product Tickets as claims against Future Production. The DA👾 then auctions Product Tickets for Work Contract signatures.

RUN You gain Land Ownership as you fulfill Work Contracts. Land Ownership preallocates Future Production to you.

GROW Owners propose new Product Tickets to govern Future Production. Owners selling surplus should 'reflect' some profit to those users as land ownership.

FORK Subgroups must be able to divide Land (draw borders) to localize control. Individuals must be able to split from groups by choosing other Land(?)




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关于词汇表和链接的好主意。很多时候,当你完成词汇表时,已经没有多少要描述的了。我可以在这里使用 gfm 格式吗?我可以在 ssme doc 内部链接,并有一个词汇表部分吗?我不这样做只是为了不方便。感谢您的建议。

Good idea about glossaries and links. A lot of times, by the time you done with glossary, not much left to describe. Can i use gfm format here. Can i link inside ssme doc, and have a glossary section? I dont do it simply for inconvenience. Thanks for suggestions.



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skihappy,

// 将字典附加到一个想法会很有帮助

这是一个好主意——每个帖子的词汇表,用户用他们的话来定义他们的意思……因为,我的感觉是,有些人在谈论他们从一个或其他词的上下文中不太在意时,并立即假设其他人会理解他们的意思。不过,我喜欢为此使用超链接:如果您认为某个词或其他词会产生歧义——只需超链接到定义即可。超文本就是为此而发明的。

// it'd be helpful to attach a dictionary to an idea

It's a great idea -- vocabularies per post, where users define what they mean with their words... because, my sense is that some people talk without much care what context they had taken one or other word from, and immediately assuming that others will understand them for what they meant. Though, I like to use hyperlinks for that: if you think one or other word will be ambiguous -- just hyperlink to definition. Hypertext was invented for that.



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Mindey,

嗯,将字典附加到一个想法上会很有帮助,即 DAO、NFT 和描述中使用的其他技术术语的含义。思考 - 我想与一些关心解决无家可归和住房问题的朋友分享这个想法,但他们不知道可用的技术解决方案。所以为了让不同的人在同一页面上,技术术语的总结会很有帮助。 :)

Hmm it'd be helpful to attach a dictionary to an idea, i.e. the meanings of DAO, NFT and other technical terms used in the description. Thinking - I'd like to share this idea with some of my friends who care about solving a problem of homelessness and housing, but they wouldn't be aware of technical solutions available. So to bring diverse people on the same page, a summary of technical jargon would be so helpful. :)



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Ruta,

是的,没有办法绕过州。我很想知道集体成员如何确保他们的所有权。 Asya,她捐赠了那个 DAO 样本,说他们将组建一个土地信托,并签署社区成员作为受托人。我不知道是否可以记录共享,但在某些时候我们将不得不开始保存我们的记录,前提是状态满意。我认为我的无知和缺乏兴趣。 另外,每个国家都会有所不同。这就是为什么网络是有帮助的。将有资源来解决这些令人头痛的问题,社区提供的典型解决方案,以代码和食谱的形式,以及律师。

yes, theres no way around the state. Id love to know how members of the collective be assured of their ownership right. Asya, she donated that DAO sample, says they will form a land trust and sign community members as trustees. I dont know if shares can be recorded, but at some point we would have to start keeping our records,provided the state is satisfied. I rest my case for ignorance and lack of interest. Also, itll be different in each country. Thats why a network is helpful. There will be resources to solve these headaches, typical solutions provide by community, in form of code and recipes, and lawyers.


关于标题令牌的有趣阅读。信息量很大。谢谢。我不确定它与这里的相关性。当然,土地所有权将以某种方式合法登记。也许,这些成员股份可以注册为部分所有权代币。也许,它可以是政府记录保存之外的另一层,仅在社区或更广泛的社区网络内有效。我不确定它是否需要得到政府的认可。组织可以在当局注册为官方土地所有者。我不知道。这些都是合法的。有人可以弄清楚。我会继续写我的代码。重要的是,一旦我们弄清楚了,我们可以将其编码为一种类型,网络中的每个人都可以使用它。

interesting read about title tokens. Very informative. Thanks. Im not sure how relevant it is to here. Of course land titles will be registered legally somehow. Maybe, those member shares can be registered as partial ownership tokens. Maybe, it can be another layer outside of gov record keeping, valid only within the community, or wider community net. Im not sure it needs to be recognized by government.An org can be registered with authorities as official land owner. I dont know. Those are legalities. Someone can figure it out. Ill just keep writing my code. Whats important, once we figure it out, we can code it as a type and everyone in the network can use it.


这是另一个想法。一个人们可以介绍他们的新兴社区和现有社区的地方,以一种有点像博客的方式,生活日记的风格,以吸引捐助者和投资者。它可以是另一种工具。一天之内创建您的 DAO、您的组织结构并广为人知。完成。一群朋友可以组织起来帮助当地无家可归的人或其他一些需要的社区服务,并获得支持并创建社区,加入全球网络,并在附近实际建立一个村庄。这个词会传播,它会起飞。首先,我们可以解决无家可归的问题。 实际上,我有一种强烈的感觉,到最后一个流浪者被安置时,包括全球变暖在内的许多其他问题都会得到解决。

heres another idea. A place where people can introduce their budding and existing communities,in a bloging kinda way, live diary style, to attract donors and investors. It can be another tool. Create your DAO, your org structure, and get known, all in one day. Done. A group of friends can get organized around helping local homeless folks or some other needed community service, and get supported and create a community, and join a global net, and actually build a village close by. The word will spread and itll take off. We can solve homeless problem, for starters. Actually, i have a strong feeling, by the time last homeless is housed, many other issues, including global warming, will be solved.


还有一个想法。人们最受崇高的道德目标的激励。自由、民主、社区、分享。那引起共鸣。我建议强调这一点,而不是潜在的货币收益。要创建我所看到的网络,我们需要用我们的愿景来激励。然后我们通过工具、路线图和示例进行授权。路线图是否会在其他方向重新铺设几乎无关紧要。有很多方法可以去。但我们必须朝着正确的方向前进。我们可以开始一些事情,其他人会完成。

yet another thought. People are best motivated by high moral goals. Freedom, democracy, community, sharing. That resonates. I propose to emphasise that,over potential monetary gaines. To create networks I see, we need to enspire with our visions. Then we empower by tools and roadmaps and examples. It almost does not matter if the roadmap will be repaved in some other direction. There are many ways to go. But we have to go in the general right direction. We can get something started, others will finish.


还有另一件事。当人们创建这些 DAO 和组织时,它们几乎没有共同点,并且很难连接到任何类型的网络中。我们真的需要一些通用的工具来进行更大规模的组织。它现在不可扩展。那是个问题。

And another thing. When people do create these DAOs and orgs, they have little commonality and hard to link into a net of any kind. We really need some common tools,to organize on larger scale. Its not scalable right now. Thats a problem.


那些没有土地的人,比如[按时间顺序]提到的那些人呢?他们将如何跳上这种洲际土地共享的乐趣?

他们会为股份工作,在土地上生活。当然,任何人都会受到欢迎,但预计它们会有用。和现在加入公社没什么不同。你去那里,结识人。他们决定是否喜欢你。但是,如果我们有一个共同的货币体系,人们通过做有用的事情获得积分,并以在线签名的方式获得声誉,那么这个过程就会变得容易得多,我们也会更加自由。从某种意义上说,美元还不错,它被普遍接受。这将创造同样的自由,但社区作为奖励添加。 此外,人们会保护自己的名誉,因为那是他们通向自由的门票。那比钱更值钱。钱可以买一张去异国他乡的普通票,但你会在一两周内感到无聊。作为贵宾来加入一个充满活力的社区会更好。金钱买不到那个。你的声誉确实如此。不再有犯罪和欺骗。不值得。

what about all those people, like [chronological] mentioned, those without land? How would they jump onto this intercontinental land-sharing joy?

They would work for shares,to live on the land. Of course, anyone would be welcome, but they would be expected to be useful. Its not different then joining a commune right now. You go there, get to know folks. They decide if they like you or not. But, if we have a common monetary system, and people earn credits for doing useful stuff, and carry reputation with them as online signature, the process will become much easier, and we will be much freer. Dollar is kinda nice in a sense its so universally accepted. This will create the same kinda freedom, but community added as a bonus. Also,people will protect their reputation, for thats their ticket to freedom. Thats more valuable then money. Money might buy a plain ticket to exotic place,but youll get bored in a week or two. Much better to come and join a vibrant community as an honored guest. Money does not buy that. Your reputation does. No more crime and cheating. Not worth it.


我没有所有的答案,只有一个愿景。没有人知道所有的答案。前途一片迷茫。它很可能以不同的方式发展。是的,我确定这不是全新的想法。那又怎样?让我们找到那些人并进行合作。越结婚越多。这就是整个想法,好的想法会像野火一样传播,正是因为每个人都有相同的想法。缺少的是真正的梦想家的起始种子。真正的梦想家是那些创造结构的人,然后其他梦想家填充结构并进化它。我提到的工具是需要的。这是事实。人们想要建立公社。这是事实。他们没有一种简单的方法来创建在线组织结构,其昂贵且劳动密集。一旦我们有了帮助他们的工具,所有的烟花都会开始发生。这只是一种情况。是的,每个地区都会有所不同。我们可以把它想得太多,并计划到最小的细节,而按照那个计划,这一切都不会发生。我们需要构建这些工具。这就是我所知道的。我们需要不是在真空中构建这些工具,而是针对地面上的特定用例,但我们可以轻松地从基础开始,然后在应用程序中进行调整。

I dont have all the answers, just a vision. No one has all the answers. Future is murky. Itll most likely develop in a different way. Yes, im sure its not entirely new idea. So what? Lets find those folks and collaborate. The more the marrier. Thats the whole idea, good ideas spread like wilfire precisely cos everyone has the same idea. Whats missing is the starting seed, by the true dreamers. The true dreamers are those that create the structure, then other dreamers populate the structure and evolve it. The tools i mentioned are needed. Thats a fact. People want to build communes. Thats a fact. They dont have an easy way to create online org structure, its expensive and labor intensive. Once we have tools to help them, all kinda fireworks will start happening. This is just one scenario. Yeah, itll be different,in each locale. We can overthink it to death and plan to smallest detail, and none of it gonna happen by that plan. We need to build those tools. Thats all I know. And we need to build those tools not in a vacuum, but for specific use cases on the ground, but we can easily start up on the basics, then adjust in applications.


顺便说一句,并非每个社区都必须是土地所有者。有些可以是分布式数字战士类型。这些是最有可能在实地培育第一批初创公司的人。只是一个想法。我知道现在有许多公社试图成立。他们需要帮助。

btw, not every community has to be a land owner. Some can be distributed, digital warrior types. Those are the most likely to seed first startups on the ground. Just a thought. I know of many communes trying to form right now. They need help.



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skihappy,

土地标记化的想法并不是很新(见底部的链接)。话虽如此,我对人们会高兴地分享它的乐观态度表示赞赏。

// 所以,任何人都可以用一个社区的股份换取地球另一端另一个社区的股份,然后去那里住一段时间,学习一些东西。

现在已经很晚了,但是——那些没有土地的人,比如[时间顺序]提到的那些人呢?他们将如何跳上这种洲际土地共享的乐趣?

明天醒来时,我会尝试更深入地研究,到那时,也许其他人会这样做。 :) 继续思考。 ^^

The idea of land tokenization isn't very new (see the link at the bottom). That said, I applaud the optimism that people will share it with joy.

// SO, anyone can trade shares in one community for shares in another one , on the other side of the globe, and go live there for a while, and learn a few things.

This is very late here, but -- what about all those people, like [chronological] mentioned, those without land? How would they jump onto this intercontinental land-sharing joy?

I'll try to look deeper when I wake up tomorrow, by then, maybe others will. :) Keep thinking. ^^


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