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让世界共同定义和追求人类目标的全球金融智囊团。
0oo.li YAML 项目 产品

该项目是管理此网站本身的开发的项目。 它是一个根据该项目的背景故事视频)中的愿望来创建的I/O系统,该系统描述了帮助人类共同定义和追求目标的愿望,以及通过这种方式,创造一种友好的人类智能。

期望结果

  • [3-5年内] 5亿人辞去工作,直接在社会中解决问题,做自己喜欢的事。
  • [7年内] 健康,教育和工作方面的主要挑战通过建议,尝试的创新解决方案得到解决,并且其中一部分得到进一步发展。

领导

  • Mindey I.(数据科学家,项目经理)
  • Ruta D.(营销人员,增长黑客)

贡献者

  • Aliev A.(后端软件工程师)
  • (考虑添加+)Artem K.(前端软件工程师)

伙伴

朋友 - Foresight Institute (https://foresight.org) - BFI Institute (https://www.bfi.org)


业务信息

KPIs

  • Distance to goal of enabling people to:
    • evolve important questions,
    • potentially breakthrough ideas and
    • evolving prototypes in projects:
      • ↑ their quality and quantity.

Roadmap

  • Past
    • 2005-01-22: Birth of Idea at Halfbakery (story: en, ja - motivation description, when in Waseda U).
    • 2014-07-02: v1 started prototype halfmakery.com (stopped: 2014-09-02)
    • 2015-07-08: v2 started prototype infty.xyz (stopped: 2017-06-24)
    • 2015-10-05: founded WeFindX Foundation with Ruta, in Ireland.
    • 2017-07-16: v3 started prototype inf.li (ReactJS) (stopped: 2019-01-15)
    • 2020-02-25: v4 started multi-domain (Django+Plain HTML) prototype (0oo.li, mugen.moe, sumanymai.lt,..)
    • 2020-09-20: Semantic Equation Model (Preprint)
  • Present
    • 2021-11-17: v4 is feature-complete.
  • Future
    • Many things described in the onepager still apply.
    • To resolve 3 key things:
      • Financial freedom by work on many things in public and get credit.
      • Civilization DNA (know-how) extraction, described in invite.
      • Protocol for world to collectively define and pursue goals.
  • Strategy
    • Continued v4 Stewardship
      • Ensuring that current feature-set works well, and more efficiently, securely.
    • Grassroots Communication and Marketing
      • Communication via projects.
      • Inviting ideators.
      • Inviting solicitors for ideas (researchers, think-tanks)
    • Partnerships and Outreach
      • have organizations to represent other sites: U.S., China, Japan, Russia.
    • Development
      • Rewrite the system with high development standards, the v5, as high-performance API-only.
      • Advance blockchain features (perhaps run own OpenDAX)
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好的,所以正确的活动页面是: https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/infinity-project-updates-gathering-tickets-312778227097

Alright, so the correct event page is: https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/infinity-project-updates-gathering-tickets-312778227097



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Mindey,
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哦真的吗!让我一回家就公开。

Oh, really! Let me make it public as soon as I'm home.

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该链接是私人的,它对我不起作用。

That link is private it doesn't work for me.

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好吧,让我们试试,这是我刚刚创建的一个活动的链接: https://www.eventbrite.com/preview?eid=312778227097/

你怎么看?我们应该有不同的日期/时间吗?

Well, let's try, here's a link to an event I've just created: https://www.eventbrite.com/preview?eid=312778227097/

What do you think? Should we have a different date/time?

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是的,明迪! Eventbrite 最擅长提醒。拥有一个活动页面来注册也可以很容易地邀请其他人。

替代方案可能是我们举办虚拟未来学家聚会的聚会个人资料!如果有很多人加入,使用 Zoom 可以很容易地将人们带入分组会议室,以便在 2-3 人之间进行更舒适的共享。

Yes, Mindey! Eventbrite is the best at reminders. Having an event page to register also makes it easy to invite others.

Alternative could be a Meetup profile where we host virtual futurists meetups! In cases if many people would join, with Zoom it's easy to bring people into breakout rooms for cozier sharing between 2-3 people.



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我认为我们应该这样做!这是一件很棒的事情,我相信我们会有什么可以分享的。

我们应该为此发出某种 eventbrite 邀请吗?他们擅长提醒订阅者:)

I think we should do it! It's a great thing to do, and I'm sure we'd have what to share.

Should we have some kind of eventbrite invitation for this? They are good at reminding subscribers :)



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我想知道,如果人们想重新启动oo社区电话?条款:所有参与者都将分享他们项目的进展:)

在过去的一个月里,我们在 ogiziu 和 Instinto Creador 项目之间使用 [malü] 的这种方法,它帮助我们真正地共同进化!

我们通常会在视频通话中连接 1 小时,然后我们每个人都会分享:

1)我们每个人上周做了什么,

2)我们每个人接下来会做什么,

3) 任何障碍或挑战。

有人想以这种方式在oo社区电话中联系吗?

I wonder, if people would like to restart oo community calls? terms: all participants would share progress about their projects :)

such method we use with [malü] between ogiziu and Instinto Creador projects for the past month, and it helped us truly to evolve together!

we typically connect for 1 hour on a video call and each of us share:

1) what each of us did last week,

2) what each of us will do next,

3) any obsctales or challenges.

anyone would like to connect in oo community calls this way?



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我的印象是,Infinity 需要至少 3 种社区的专业知识:

  1. Foresight.org、BFI.org、metaculus.com 的“问题/谜题”部分,
  2. Halfbakery.com 的“创意”部分,
  3. Pioneer.app、IndieHackers.com 的“项目”部分。

还有更多,比如产品部分,但在这个时候,以社区文化为重点,前三件事是最有益的,我认为。

I have an impression, that Infinity requires the expertise of at least 3 kind of communities:

  1. Foresight.org, BFI.org, metaculus.com for the "Issues/Puzzles" part,
  2. Halfbakery.com for the "Ideas" part,
  3. Pioneer.app, IndieHackers.com for the "Projects" part.

There is more, like the products part, but at this time, taking the cultures of community focusing the first 3 things would be most beneficial, I think.

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同意对于作为一个系统的 oo 来说“运动”是多么重要。

嗯,我不确定“动态中的想法”,因为人们多久研究一下别人的想法?人们需要激励来做到这一点。人们更经常地致力于自己的想法,或者只是项目,想法在实验过程的后期展开。

对我来说,一个有趣的 oo 系统价值衡量标准是:Link-Building,即网络的活跃程度?成员对彼此的帖子发表评论和协作的频率如何?会员帖子之间的联系越多样化,引发的创意思想就越多样化,系统上的内容质量越高,对系统的保留越多,参与度越高,推荐越多。

总体而言,我看到 oo 系统的健康状况——彼此之间的联系和关系激发了每个人的创造性思维。

顺便说一句 - 改进对特定评论的回复很有用!

Agree how important is to be "in motion" for the oo as a system.

Hmm, I'm not sure about "ideas in motion", because how often people work on somebody else's ideas? People need incentives to do that. More often people work on their own ideas, or just projects, where ideas unfold later in the experimentation process.

To me, an interesting measure of value of the oo system would be: Link-Building, i.e. how active the network is? How often members comment and collaborate on each other's posts? The more diverse links between members posts, the more diverse creative thoughts sparked, the more quality content on the system, the more retention to the system, the more engagement, the more referrals.

Overall, I see the health of the oo system being - links and relationships between each others that spark creative thoughts for everyone.

Btw - improved replies to specific comments are useful!



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我认为,我们系统的主要 KPI 是“想法”和“动态想法”,其中“动态” - 意味着它们正在积极工作(例如,定期更新)。

顺便说一句,您可以直接回复评论和分类帐事件,因此可以形成特定线程和回复作品等。

Thinking of the major KPI for our system, I think, is the "ideas" and "ideas in motion", where "in motion" - means, that they are actively being worked (e.g., has periodic updates).

Btw., you can reply to comments and ledger events directly, so it is possible to form specific threads and respond to works, etc.



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注:创新者社区联系方式:

  • [日本] https://dynalist.io/d/iIT_nuAiAMx9JxctYclliF43

Note: Contacts of innovator communities:

  • [Japan] https://dynalist.io/d/iIT_nuAiAMx9JxctYclliF43
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好吧。我添加了路径:/invitation/hi 作为公开邀请的地方(例如,点击 0oo.li/hi 0oo.li/invitation 导致公开邀请。)

Alright. I've added paths: /invitation and /hi to serve as place for public invites (so, for example, clicking on 0oo.li/hi or 0oo.li/invitation leads to the public invite.)



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邀请链接中的文本在使用邀请后不会消失,因此它们仍然可以访问,并且任何旧的邀请链接仍然可读,或者您的意思是我们需要一个更好的 URL,例如 0oo.li/public-letter 或某物?

The text inside the invite links does not disappear after the invite is used, so they remain accessible, and any old invite link is still readable, or do you mean we need a nicer URL for it, like 0oo.li/public-letter or something?



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谢谢!哦,我的意思是 - 可以在网站上更轻松地访问邀请页面文本并与人们共享吗?

Thanks! Oh and I meant - can invite page text be accessed easier on the website and shared with people?

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最古老的是 here,但是,有 ( paper)(关于方程模型),它取代了该设计。

The oldest one is here, however, there's the (paper) (on the equation model), which supersedes that design.



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0oo的白皮书在哪里?我想与朋友分享(但没有邀请,只是文本阅读)。在网站页脚和 0oo 项目描述中查看白皮书链接会很有用:)

Where is the Whitepaper of 0oo? I'd like to share it with a friend (but without an invite, just text to read). It would be useful to see Whitepaper linked in the footer of the website and in the 0oo project description :)



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我知道了。这可能很有用。在结果中使用“隐藏公开”复选框以用作草稿怎么样?选择此项允许对不在项目“成员”中的每个人隐藏它(但它仍然会在项目频道中收到通知)。我会考虑在下一次迭代中添加这个功能。

我这样做的方式是,我列出了我通过编辑目标完成的项目,只需在其中添加项目符号,然后编写包含更多详细信息的更新结果。

I got it. This may be useful. What about using "Hide from Public" checkbox in the results to use as drafts? Selecting this allows to hide it from everyone who are not in the "members" of the project (but it will still get a notification in project channel). I'll consider adding this feature in next iteration.

The way I'm doing it, is that I list the items that I have completed by editing a target, just adding bullet points in it, and then, writing an update as a result with more details.



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反馈请求:

我希望能够将“草稿”添加到“结果”中。因为我喜欢在我的项目页面中记录我的任务发生时的生活。有了草稿,我可以改进我的结果声明——我可以在以后抽出时间记录每个结果的报告,并在以后将草稿变成公开的结果声明。

feedback request:

I'd like to be able to add "drafts" to "results". because I love lifelogging my tasks in my project pages when they happen. with drafts, I could improve my result declarations - I could find time to record a report on each result later, and turn a draft into a public result declaration later.



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[“让一切都存在”](https://book.mindey.com/metaformat/0000-philosophy/0000-philosophy.html

"Let Everything Exist" philosophy should be linked to 0oo project :)



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人们分解和运行项目。因此,每个项目都是由一些组件组成的。对于任意示例,此类“部分”可以是:

  • 内容
  • 社区
  • 设计
  • 供应商
  • 会计

这些是随机的类别,但想象一下世界上某个地方的某个项目有专门的人员团队来照顾这些特定的组件,以便它们可靠地运行。我认为可靠工作的组件是对社会可扩展价值的本质。

每个不同的项目通常会有非常不同的一组这样的“部分”来运行和发展,如果我们想通过很多不同的人的合作来创造一些新产品,我们需要有一种方法来组织部分和参与,以便能够正确地信任每个人,并透明地制定战略。

那么,这在 0oo 上会是什么样子呢?好吧,我想,可以在项目设置的“业务详细信息”部分下提供初始树管理,使用 markdown-syntax 来描述一棵树(例如,HiveCell project/236/?l=en&s=t) 可能有一个物理部分的树(点击它下面的“业务详细信息”),以及负责每个部分的团队,以及 0oo 可能有微服务和团队作为部件负责它们,等等。),我们可以稍后对其进行解析,并将其用作项目结果和操作的分类选项。

总之,在考虑任何项目时,分解是需要考虑的事情。目前,只有使用项目的“业务详细信息”部分来执行这些操作的基本方法。后面我会考虑如何详细说明。

People decompose and run projects. So, every project is made up of some components. For an arbitrary example, such "parts" could be:

  • Content
  • Community
  • Designs
  • Suppliers
  • Accounting

These are random categories, but imagine that some project somewhere in the world has teams of people dedicated to take care that these particular components, so that they function reliably. I think that reliably working components are the essence of scalable value to society.

Each different project will usually have very different set of such said "parts" to function and evolve, and if we want to create some new product through a cooperation of a lot of various people, we need to have a way to organize the graph of parts and involvement, so as to be able to credit everyone correctly, and strategize transparently.

So, how this may look like on 0oo? Well, I suppose, initial tree management could be provided under the "Business Details" section in the project settings, using markdown-syntax to describe a tree (for example, HiveCell may have a tree of physical parts (click "Business Details" under it), and teams responsible for each, and 0oo may have microservices and teams responsible for them as parts, and so on.), which we could later parse, and use as classification options for project results and operations.

In summary, the decompositions is something to think about, when thinking of any project. For now, there's just this basic way of doing them using "Business Details" section of project. I'll think how to elaborate on it later on.

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[Ruta],是的,“制作”更有意义,所以将其重命名为“制作”;)

// “分销”表示将商品零售分销到超市。这种类型的意图是什么?

它适用于任何需要扩展的东西——例如,以分发“内容分发”为重点的项目可能希望扩展艺术的影响,或者“产品分发”将专注于大规模交付制成的产品。

[Ruta], yeah "Making" makes more sense, so renamed it to "Making" ;)

// "Distribution" suggests retail distribution of goods into supermarkets. what's the intention of that type?

It's intended for anything that's mean to be scaled -- for example, distribution "content distribution" focused project would possibly want to scale the impact of an art, or "product distribution" would be focused on delivering the made products at scale.

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RE 类型:

[Mindey],我喜欢作为一种类型的制造,比制造更全面(这意味着大工厂制造,这与艺术的制作方式相去甚远)。嗯,Distribution 建议将商品零售分配到超市。这种类型的意图是什么?也许可以创建一个更全面的:)

RE types:

[Mindey], I like Making as a type, way more comprehensive than Manufacturing (which suggests big factory manufacturing, which is so far away of how art is made). hmm, Distribution suggests retail distribution of goods into supermarkets. what's the intention of that type? perhaps a more comprehensive one could be created :)



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it would be useful somehow organise related Puzzles with potential parents and children, to make it easier to navigate related topics!

it would be useful somehow organise related Puzzles with potential parents and children, to make it easier to navigate related topics!



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// 我想添加一个艺术项目,它的目的是社会影响,所以也许是“社会”类型

通常,具有社会影响力的艺术是一种感知的制造(~=制造)和营销(~=分发)。 :) 我认为,如果一个艺术项目是关于制作一件新的艺术作品,可以通过将“制造”类别重命名为“制作”来概括。然后,艺术属于“制作”如果一件艺术品被广泛传播(如通过推文)以达到社会影响,它甚至可以归入“分发”类别。

// I want to add an art project, it's purpose is societal impact, so perhaps a Type "Society"

Usually, art for social impact is a kind of making (~= manufacturing) and marketing (~=distribution) of perceptions. :) I think, if an art project is about making a new art piece, it could be generalized by renaming the "Manufacturing" category into "Making". Then, Art kind of falls under "Making" If a piece of art is widely distributed (like via a Tweet) to reach social impact, it can even fall under "Distributing" category.

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缺少添加项目时的类型。如果我想添加一个艺术项目,它的目的是社会影响,那么也许是“社会”类型?与社区项目一样,它们现在不适合当前类型:) 也许“社会”或“社会影响”会同时涵盖艺术和社区项目?

Type when adding Projects is missing. If I want to add an art project, it's purpose is societal impact, so perhaps a Type "Society"? Same with community projects, they don't fit into current types now :) Perhaps "Society" or "Social Impact" would cover both - art and community - projects?



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// 是否有可能让其他组织可以在 Ooo 之上建立基于会员的网站

是的,[Ruta],其实很可能把一个类别变成一个域,就像medium.com已经是域,允许用户设置他们的域,但是共享单个数据库。我仍在考虑实施社区功能的最佳初始方式,并考虑一下。 :)

// Would it be possible to make it so, that other organisations could set up membership-based websites on top of Ooo

Yeah, [Ruta], in fact it is very possible to make a category into a domain, like medium.com has been domain, allowing users to set their domain, however, sharing single database. I'm still considering best initial way to implement communities functionality, and think about it. :)



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// 创建“oo”社区功能

你好!我对这个很好奇。是否有可能让其他组织可以在 Ooo 之上建立基于会员的网站,并每月向 0oo 缴纳税款(根据他们的会员收入)以提供此类基础设施?什么是可定制的?是否可以使这些视图 - 主页、用户配置文件、项目页面 - 是可定制的?

作为 KOKONO,我会对此感兴趣。此外,如果提供了关于如何定制设计的明确文档(即使对于设计/开发同事),我相信许多促进在线学习和在线社区的微型组织也会对此感兴趣。目前,使用了 Discord、WordPress、Kajabi、Circle 等工具。

// create "oo" communities functionality

Hello! I'm curious about this. Would it be possible to make it so, that other organisations could set up membership-based websites on top of Ooo and pay a monthly tax (based on their revenue from memberships) to 0oo for providing such infrastructure? What would be customisable? Could it be made so, that these views - Homepage, User Profiles, Project page - are customisable?

I'd be interested in this as KOKONO. Also, if clear documentation provided on how to customise the design (even for design/development colleagues), I believe many micro organisations who facilitate online learning and online communities would be interested in this too. At the moment, tools like Discord, WordPress, Kajabi, Circle, ... are used.



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市场上的评论顺序颠倒了,但让我们看看。这很容易做到,我认为最好是按用户自定义。 ;)非常期待UI / UX的发展,因此,您可以启动此类主题,只需选中“基本管理”框即可;)

Comment order is reversed in the market, but let's see. It can easily be done, and I think best to be per-user customizable. ;) Very much looking forward to evolving the UI/UX, so, you can start such topic, just tick the "Base Administration" box ;)



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让我们请颠倒注释顺序=)以首先查看最新的。同样,[+ comment]按钮最好位于顶部。我想启动一个有关0oo UI升级的项目。

Let us please reverse the comments order =) to see the latest first. Also [+comment] button better be on top. I want to start a project about 0oo UI upgrade.



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我有点希望拥有:

1.项目(如积压工作)的愿望清单,人们可以在其中写自己想做的事情。挑战功能非常适合冲刺和问题,但不适用于写出我们计划要做的事情或我们希望做的功能。这可以通过已经存在的“结果”模型来实现,只需添加额外的属性即可。 2.主题的自定义URL(因此我们可以为项目提供唯一的URL,包括用户名下的用户个人资料)。 3.区域站点之间的多主PostgreSQL同步,用户可以自行选择共享给其他节点的内容。

I kinda wish to have:

  1. Wishlists for projects (that work like backlogs), where people could write the things they'd like to do. Challenges feature is great for sprints and questions, but not that well for writing out things that we're planning to do, or features that we wish to do. That could be realized via "Results" model that already exists, just adding extra property.
  2. Custom URLs for topics (so we could give unique URLs to items, including user profiles under username).
  3. Multi-master PostgreSQL synchronization between regional sites, with user's own choice what to share to other nodes.


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N次测试首页:0oo的首页目前仅以一种方式出现,但是,通过更改顶部类别,例如[0oo.li/?cat=971](https://0oo.li/?cat= 971),它的显示方式可能会完全不同。因此,实际上,如果我们对访问者有更多了解,例如他们输入了什么搜索引擎关键字,我们可以在第一次访问时显示不同的主题版本0oo。而且,在所有这些类别可以像在不同的Reddit网站上一样工作之后,除了它实际上会在每个更广泛的主题领域中显示重要的问题,想法和项目(公司)……这很容易-只需传递类别ID ,例如Cyberspace:[0oo.li/?cat=1366](https://0oo.li/?cat=1366)。

N-way testing of the homepage: the homepage of 0oo is currently appearing just one way, however, by changing the top category, like 0oo.li/?cat=971, it can appear completely differently. So, in actuality, if we knew a little bit more about the person visiting, like what search engine keyword they had entered, we could display a different topic version of 0oo on the first visit. And, after all those categories can work a bit like different reddit sites, except, it would actually display the important questions, ideas and projects(companies) in each broader subject domain... and that is so easy -- just passing category ID, e.g., Cyberspace: 0oo.li/?cat=1366.

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我们可以进行仅markdown导出,甚至-[Syncthing上的实时.md副本-这样,任何人都可以在Markdown编辑器(如Obsidian.md)上打开整个0oo内容作为知识图。 。我的意思是,作为数据导出的功能,我们可以很容易地生成 像这样

前几天,我也在考虑,首先将0oo的内容作为GitHub存储库页面发布,而不是在单个存储库中,而是在许多人(主题的作者)的存储库中(例如[chronological]之类的人喜欢将他的想法保存在自己的GitHub存储库中,可以在那里进行编辑)。

这里有一件特别的事,我们有多语言的Markdown页面,这些页面具有特殊的额外语法,可以将多种语言的版本组合到一个页面中。

We could make markdown-only export, or even -- live .md copies on Syncthing -- so that anyone could open entire 0oo content as a knowledge graph on Markdown editors like Obsidian.md. I mean, we could generate something like this quite easily, as a feature of data export.

I was also thinking the other day, about having the content of 0oo live as GitHub repository pages first, not on a single repository, but on repositories of many people (the authors of topics) (so someone like [chronological], who likes to keep his ideas on his own GitHub repo, could edit it there).

One special thing here, we have multi-lingual markdown pages, that have special extra syntax, allowing to combine versions of multiple languages into a single page.



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因此,我认为最好添加主题和评论的语音版本,以便某人可以简单地播放整个0oo流。可以使用GoogleTTSAPI轻松生成mp3文件,例如有声读物。考虑到声音很流行,有些人可能想在这里听对话。有趣的是,这必须针对所有语言的版本进行。

此外,我们可以添加语音转文字(例如otter.ai),以便某人可以简单地记录评论,并将其转录并翻译为其他语言,从而生成其他语言语音版本自动。

So, I think it would be good to add voice versions of topics and comments, so that someone could simply play entire 0oo stream. The mp3 files could be easily generated with GoogleTTS API, like an audio book. Considering that voice is quite popular, some people may want to listen the conversations here. It's fun that this would have to be done to the versions in all languages.

Additionally, we could add Speech-To-Text (like with otter.ai), so that someone could simply record a comment, and have it transcribed and translated to other languages, generating other language speech versions automatically.



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[justinmiyamoto],您的结果似乎不公开或不正确。我所看到的是this。我想,您的结果是关于UI设计或改进的?尝试使Google Drive链接公开可见。

[justinmiyamoto], your result appears to be either not public, or incorrect. What I'm seeing is this. I suppose, your result is about a UI design or improvements? Try making google drive link publicly visible.

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我不得不提到,0oo作为HomeBase的工作方式受到了我最喜欢的游戏“ X-COM:UFO Enemy Unknown ”的启发,其中人类必须管理基地以保护地球免受外来入侵与资源管理。因此,这就是每个项目都有“位置”(单击“ + [传输]”旁边的图像)以及我的旧想法“ 目标跟踪和资源管理”的原因数据库。 :)无论如何,实际上确实有很多东西启发了它。如果我们意识到,这个想法可能真的像是经济X-COM,那么这种乐趣实际上可能会真正开始。

I've got to mention, that the way 0oo works as a HomeBase, is a bit inspired by my favorite game, called "X-COM: UFO Enemy Unknown", where humans have to manage bases to defend Earth from Alien Invasion with management of resources. So, that's why each project has "Locations" (click image next to "+[Transfer]"), and my old idea of "Goal tracking and resource management" database. :) Anyway, there were really many things in fact, that inspired it. That fun could actually start in real, if we realize this idea that could be like an economic X-COM for good.



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标记已解决或已存档挑战的功能将很有用。我不喜欢删除,因为看到一个挑战很有价值,现在它已经解决或不再相关。

A feature to mark solved or archived Challenges would be useful. I don't like deleting because it's valuable to see that there was a Challenge and now it's solved or not relevant anymore.

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有些评论(是对挑战的回应)可能以不同的颜色显示,并且在这些挑战下可以显示出来,从而使该部分的工作原理类似于定额?我认为,我们还应该选择一个选项,使已解决的问题从主页消失。

Some comments, those that are responses to challenges, may appear in different color, and be showable under those challenges, cause that part works a bit like quora? I think, we should also make an option then for the resolved issues to disappear from the home page.



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只需让用户设置项目的网址名称,以便项目,想法等可以注册其句柄,例如如果注册了mutantu句柄,则 0oo.li / project / 1011 可以映射到 0oo.li / project / mutantu

Just let users set their project's url name, so that projects, ideas, etc. could register their handles, e.g. the 0oo.li/project/1011 could map to 0oo.li/project/mutantu if mutantu handle is registered.

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爱那个在网上聚会:

-链接目标和想法 -项目进度

会很有用,并有助于人们找到合作者并进入反馈循环以推动项目前进。

代替日历,在人们单击以宣布愿意连接Zoom的地方放置一个按钮会很酷。

也许它可以从通用问题“ 0oo在线聚会”开始,其中0oo用户在想在一起通话时发表评论。

Love that. Having online meetups for:

  • Linking Goals and Ideas
  • Projects Progress

would be useful and help people find collaborators and get into feedback loop to move projects forward.

Instead of a Calendar, it would be cool to have a button somewhere that people click to announce about willingness to connect on Zoom.

Maybe it can start as a generic Question "Online Meetups for 0oo" where 0oo users comment when they want to come together on a call.



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没错,这很有意义,通常是通过某些定时的在线活动来完成,而通过结合使用Zoom + Google日历会很容易。但是,我认为如果人数太少可能会不好玩。例如,如果只出现3个人:)如果说有8个人左右开始,那会更好玩,所以,我想,为将来做计划。好的方向。

另外,我想有多种会议: -(针对目标和想法)对它们进行排序和投票,帮助发现新的链接(相关作品)并进行自由交谈 -(对于项目)有些人可能想像创业公司一样定期了解他们的项目进度,并互相咨询。

基于Airtable的日历的缺点之一是,当添加到日历时,它们不显示事件的详细信息,仅显示名称,因此我不知道实际上有多少人订阅了它们。

Right, that makes sense, it's usually done through certain timed online activities, that would be easy by combining Zoom + Google calendar. However, I'd think it might be not fun if the number of people is too small. E.g., if just 3 people show up :) It would be more fun if there were say 8 people or so to start with, so, I'd think, well, plan it for the future. Good direction though.

In addition, I imagine there are different kinds of meetings: - (for goals & ideas) sorting and voting on them, helping discover new links (related works), and free talking - (for projects) there are people who might want to catch up periodically about their project progress, almost like startups, and consult each others.

One of the shortcomings of the Airtable-based calendars is that they do not show the details of the event, only name, when added to calendars, so I don't know how many people actually subscribed to them.



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功能请求的想法:

-邀请朋友参加1个小时的实时无限挑战,在此期间每个人都在0oo.li上发布有趣的问题/想法并评论彼此的帖子。

有时间限制可以使所有人集中精力进行创造性思考,并在陌生人之间快速建立纽带。

我曾经主持过数百个陌生人的实时Twitter聊天。很棒!

Idea for feature request:

  • Invite friends for 1 hour real-time Infinity Challenge during which everyone posts interesting Questions/Ideas and comments to each other's posts on 0oo.li.

Having a time limit focuses everyone to think creatively and creates a bond between strangers fast.

I used to moderate live twitter chats for hundreds of strangers. Worked great!

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关于喜欢/不喜欢的评论,我们是否希望能够看到谁喜欢/不喜欢? :)我认为是的,因为人们很想知道谁在阅读它们,而没有明确的答复。

或者,更好的方法是进行读取回执,以便任何人都可以选择添加“对勾”来表示他们已阅读,而喜欢的则用于评估而不是读取回执指示。

Regarding comment likes/dislikes, do we want to be able to see, who liked/disliked? :) I think yes, because people care to know who read them, without explicit replies.

Or, better, make read-receipts, so that anyone can optionally just add a "tick", to indicate they had read, leaving the likes to be for evaluation rather than read-receipt indication.



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//顶部是“ Dream = World(Actions)”。.//

是的,视觉效果不错!完全有道理。这是一个要做的事。 ;)

// "Dream=World(Actions)" at the top.. //

Yeah, and good visually! Totally makes sense. It's a to-do. ;)



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我添加了一个挑战:主页如何鼓励新用户查看平台的用途? (来自6个人的反馈使他们感到超负荷)。对于新手来说,Dream = World(Actions)或Y = F(X)怎么会更明显?

建议:在主页上,添加“ Dream = World(Actions)”,而不是“ FEEDS”(最近7天创建的项目以粗体显示)。交流平台的目的。 查看这张照片代表我的意思

I added a challenge: How can homepage encourage new users to see what the platform is for? (Feedback from 6 people about them feeling overloaded). How can Dream=World(Actions) aka Y=F(X) be more obvious for newbies?

Suggestion: On homepage, add "Dream=World(Actions)" instead of "FEEDS Items created in last 7 days are in bold." to communicate the purpose of the platform. See this photo of what I mean



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很高兴看到喜欢评论功能!我想知道,将“-”转换为“?”是否有意义?这样,“ +”表示同意,“?”表示要求澄清评论。这样,它更具建设性,并鼓励评论员继续讨论,而不是不同意结束讨论。

Great to see likes on comments feature realised! I wonder, does it make sense to transform "-" into "?". This way "+" means agreement and "?" means a request to clarify a comment. This way it's more constructive and encourages commentators to continue discussion rather than disagreeing which ends the discussion.



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// Weirdo创意未来主义梦想家如何参加这些活动?

好吧,事件显然需要日历链接,我们可以在日历链接旁边显示它们。 :)

// How do Weirdo Creative Futurist Dreamers come and join those events?

Well, events obviously need calendar links, that we could display alongside them. :)

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太好了,喜欢它!那么,“怪异的创意未来主义者梦想家”如何参加这些活动?

Great, love it! So how do Weirdo Creative Futurist Dreamers come and join those events?

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:)我认为,关于事件,我们有一个发生事件的地方:) [https://0oo.li/events](https://0oo.li/events)。我在想,我们可以使用它。救生艇基金会使用其“最新消息”([https://lifeboat.com/ex/whats.new](https://lifeboat.com/ex/whats.new)我们也可以这样做,然后将这些事件与“问题/想法/项目”联系起来,读者可能会发现参与其中很有趣。自动关联,如果是关于艺术的,则可以连接艺术探索会议,等等。

:) I thought, regarding events, we have a place for events :) https://0oo.li/events . I'm thinking, we could use it. The Lifeboat Foundation uses its "what's new" "( https://lifeboat.com/ex/whats.new ), where they share various news they find and relevant to their audience. We could do too. Then link those events with Questions / Ideas / Projects, the readers of which may find it interesting to participate in them. E.g., if we have a topic on Finance, finance discussion events may be auto-linked, if it is something about art, then art exploration meetings could be connected, etc.

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//我建议在此添加跨学科讨论,以作为一种好处//

当然,这是有关其结构的位置和一般性的不可思议的事情之一-培养真正的跨学科思想。 :)这可能是一个真正独特的好处:我认为0oo的核心必须是“怪异的创意未来主义梦想家”,而其他人则更多是支持者,例如,监管机构/投资者/金融家-会说“哎呀” ”或“继续前进”-通过监管或财务措施,同时保持创新精神不变。

// I suggest to add inter-disciplinary discussion as a benefit here //

Of course, that is one of those magical things about the place and generality of its structure -- it is to cultivate the truly interdisciplinary thought. :) It could be a truly unique benefit: I think the core of 0oo must the "weirdo creative futurist dreamers", and others be more of a supportive periphery, i.e., regulators/investors/financiers -- be the ones who say "ouch" or "go ahead" -- with their regulatory or financial actions, meanwhile leaving the creative spirit to be what it is.



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//希望公开讨论科学和工程//

我建议在此添加跨学科讨论作为一个好处。有在线的地方供科学家交谈。

但是,在互联网上(或在世界范围内)有一个开放的场所,可以一起“讨论科学,艺术,设计,工程和商业”吗?

它不存在。那么,谁会不同意这样多样化的思维方式会产生意想不到的想法和项目呢?对于那些喜欢思考和创造的人来说,是一个很好的选择。

// desire to discuss science and engineering publicly //

I suggest to add inter-disciplinary discussion as a benefit here. There are places on-line for scientists to talk.

But where is an open place on the Internet (or in the world) to discuss sciences, arts, design, engineering and business, all together?

It does not exist. So who would disagree that such a diverse mix of thinking would produce unexpected ideas and projects? Great offer for those who like to think and create.

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感谢您为应对挑战提出的出色建议[Ruta]。但是,所有很棒的建议,我都对其中一个有疑问:

//与西方国家和忙碌的城市相比,资源较少的国家更急于参与诸如0oo之类的新计划

西方国家资金雄厚的科学研究并不意味着没有公开讨论科学与工程的愿望。反之...

是的,鲜为人知的大学很少,但是却产生了杰出的才能。人才不是“大学”的功能,而是最终到达那里的特定个人的功能(可能是由于他们的家庭和课外教育, 因为大学)。因此,正如您曾经说过“ 1:1”一样,我宁愿不专注于入职大学,而是关注那些个人。

Thanks for great suggestions towards the tackling the challenge, [Ruta]. All great suggestions, though, I have doubts about one:

// Countries with less resources have more urgency to get involved in a new initiative like 0oo, compared to Western countries and busy cities with too-much-going-on

The scientific research being well-funded in the West doesn't imply that there is no desire to discuss science and engineering publicly. On the contrary...

Yes, there are little known universities, that had nevertheless produced exceptional talent. The talent is not so much a function of "university", but rather, of the specific individuals that end up there (likely due to their family and extracurricular education, not because of the university). So, I'd rather not focus on on-boarding universities, but focus on those individuals, as you once said 1:1.



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可再生能源挑战:

//如何让目标明确的利益相关者组成的愿景者,监管者,发明家,行动者和金融家从世界不同的经济集团来到0oo.li? //

分阶段构建社区发展有助于并留出时间发展关系并享受旅途。我建议首先从最重要的小组开始:有远见的人和发明家(以便0oo充满讨论和推动项目发展的主题)。然后转向行动者+金融家。最后是监管者。

如何发现有远见的人?我建议与研发经费较少的地区的大学联系。学生有时间思考,研究和发展。与西方国家和忙碌的城市相比,资源较少的国家更迫切需要参与诸如0oo之类的新计划。只需向学生会,研发计划,大学的开放式创新计划发送电子邮件即可。从1个学生会开始。

关于“目标群体”,我建议邀请研究可持续发展目标和/或在其任务声明中具有“ 100%的生命”或类似目标的非营利组织在0oo上分享其研究项目,以便他们获得来自人群的意见,还邀请研究人员使用0oo对观点和研究问题进行交叉授粉。

RE challenge:

// How to get goal-aligned interest groups of visionaries, regulators, inventors, doers+financiers to come to 0oo.li from diverse world's economic blocs? //

Structuring community development in stages helps and leaves time for relationship development and enjoying the journey. I suggest to start with the most important group first: visionaries and inventors (so that 0oo is filled with topics to discuss and drive projects from). Then moving to doers+financiers. Lastly, to regulators.

How to discover visionaries? I suggest to contact universities in locations that get less funding for R&D. Students have time to think, research and develop. Countries with less resources have more urgency to get involved in a new initiative like 0oo, compared to Western countries and busy cities with too-much-going-on. Simply sending emails to student unions, R&D programmes, open innovation programmes in universities is doable. Starting with 1 student union.

In terms of "goal-aligned groups", I suggest inviting non-profit organisations that research Sustainable Development Goals and/or have "100% of life" and similar in their mission statements, to share their research projects on 0oo so that they get input from the crowd, also invite researchers to use 0oo for cross-pollination of ideas and research questions.

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功能要求:

-在所有类型(问题,想法,项目)中添加标签(元类别)将使用户看到思想家的多样性,并迅速意识到如何发表有用的评论

-元类别可以是:科学,经济,文化,教育,艺术,哲学,技术

例如:

-如果有关于飞往火星的问题,则该问题被标记为“科学”

-如果有关于改善道路的问题,则标记为“经济”

-如果谈论人类的传统和仪式,则被标记为文化

-如果谈论使学习变得更加有趣,则被标记为“教育”

-如果谈论社会规范和创造性实验,则被标记为“艺术”

-如果谈论新的思维方式和心理模型,则被称为“哲学”

-如果谈论新技术,则被标记为技术

还有哪些其他元类别可以帮助对本网站上共享的所有内容进行分组?

Feature request:

  • Adding labels (meta-categories) to all types (Questions, Ideas, Projects) would allow users to see diversity of thinkers and quickly realise how to make a useful comment

  • Meta-categories could be: Science, Economy, Culture, Education, Art, Philosophy, Technology

For example:

  • if a question talks about flying to Mars, this question is labeled as Science

  • if a question talks about improving roads, it's labeled as Economy

  • if it talks about human traditions and rituals, it's labeled as Culture

  • if it talks about making learning more fun, it's labeled as Education

  • if it talks about social norms and creative experiments, it's labeled as Art

  • if it talks about new ways of thinking and mental models, it's labeled as Philosophy

  • if it talks about new technologies, it's labeled as Technology

What other meta-categories would help group everything shared on this website?

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来自[Ruta]的功能请求:

-在注释中提到的任务中具有“完成”选项。

Feature request from [Ruta]:

  • have the "done" option in the tasks mentioned in comments.
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功能要求:

-评论中的图释

-主页部分“操作”中的背景颜色与项目页面中“结果”的背景颜色匹配

Feature requests:

  • Emoticons in comments

  • Background colour on homepage section "operations" to match a background colour of "results" within a project page

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惊奇地看到挑战功能实现了!在寻求陌生人帮助时非常有用。我刚刚在SAME项目中发布了我的第一个挑战。

Amazing to see Challenges feature realised! So useful when asking for help from strangers. I just posted my first Challenge in SAME project.

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我需要一个<3按钮进行评论。是的,[Ruta],这正是我想要添加的功能。 (⇡)

I need a <3 button for comments. Yeah, [Ruta], that's exactly the kind of functionality that I'd love to add. (⇡)

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在不久的将来,很容易直接通过0oo平台为人们宣告实现项目的结果提供资金。

这是如何工作的:

1.Funder发现要资助谁

资助者按类别(艺术,科学,创新等)对项目进行优先排序,并选择要资助的项目

要么

首先,出资者浏览所有研究问题,构想,项目并发现他们喜欢的一个或多个个体,并决定:

-通过定期捐款直接为该用户提供资金

-与该用户一起建立一个项目,并附上经常性捐款

2.Funder单击一个按钮,每月向该用户或项目进行选定金额的定期捐款

3.用户不断向项目申报结果,并向钱包中的经常性捐款进行兑现(可将资金转入其在线银行或贝宝)

此功能非常适合匹配慈善者/赞助人的艺术家/独立研究人员,他们已经在大学,研究中心,艺术中心的部分课程中提供了“居留权”,“助学金”,“津贴”,“捐赠”

in near future, it'd be cool to facilitate funding people directly via 0oo platform for the results they declare realising projects.

this is how it could work:

1.Funder discovers whom to fund

a funder prioritises projects by category (arts, sciences, innovation, etc) and chooses a Project to fund

OR

first, a funder browses through all research questions, ideas, projects and discovers an Individual (or a few) that they like and decide to:

  • fund that user directly with a recurring donation

  • form a project with that user with a recurring donation attached to it

2.Funder clicks a button to make a recurring monthly donation of chosen amount to that user or a project

3.User keeps on declaring results to the Project and gets a recurring donation to a wallet that allows to cashout (transfer the money to their online bank or paypal)

this feature would suit perfectly for matching artists/independent researchers with philanthropists/patrons who already provide "residencies", "bursaries", "stipends", "donations" in programs part of universities, research centres, art centres

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因此,正如[Ruta]所指出的,拥有“ 挑战”(例如KPI或项目目标)可以使项目受益,而且我认为,我们还可以拥有“排行榜”在[0oo.li/projects](https://0oo.li/projects/)上查看或排序项目的选项。我同意这将是一件很棒的事情,是的,在项目的待办事项列表中。

So, as [Ruta] has pointed out, projects may benefit from having "Challenges" (like KPIs or targets for projects), and I think, additionally, we could have something of a "Leaderboard" view or sort option for projects at 0oo.li/projects. I agree that this would be great things to add, and yeah, on the to-do list for projects.

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允许用户添加到库的链接将很有用。为什么?因为我们阅读文章,它们引发了想法和问题。类似于Instapaper / Pocket的类似功能,允许将链接添加到一个地方以供以后阅读。

Allowing a user to add a link to Library would be useful. Why? Because we read articles and they spark ideas and questions.

Similar functionality like Instapaper/Pocket, that allow to add a link to one place to read it later.

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声明结果的表格很困难,这会阻止新手用户共享结果。可以简化一下吗?仅包括以下内容:-项目-发生的-摘要(将其重命名为结果以使其保持一致,即在“项目”页面上,按钮上显示“结果”,因此也将其保留在此处)-详细信息-网址-花费的小时数(合并费用)和币种,默认设置为小时声明)-作者-(隐藏所有其他字段,直到用户学会声明结果和小时数为止)

A form to declare Results is difficult, this prevents newbie users of sharing results.

Could this be simplified and include only:

  • Project

  • Happened

  • Summary (rename to Result to keep it consistent, i.e. on Project page a button says "Result", so keep it here too)

  • Details

  • Url

  • Hours Spent (merging Costs and Currency, making hour declarations as a default)

  • Author

  • (hiding all other fields until users learn to Declare Results and Hours)

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在项目级别的用户交互至关重要。因为当项目发展时,用户就有动力继续创作。这是一个反馈循环。但是问每个项目是否需要帮助很奇怪。因此,用户最终只能自己完成项目,这很费力。那么该解决方案如何:-“项目”页面中的“挑战”按钮,允许创建者评论其项目当前面临的挑战/需求是什么? -通过这种方式,其他用户(行动者)可以简单地响应挑战并提交结果。这将激发分布在许多不同项目中的所有用户之间的自发合作,并创造协同作用的时刻,在这些时刻,通过一起执行小任务,这些用户将所有项目推向更高的层次。相同的行为可以在相同的水平上重复并形成文化规范,即人们不会被束缚,而是会组织起来互相帮助并解决所有全球性挑战。

User interactions on the project level are essential. Because when a project grows, users are motivated to keep on creating. It's a feedback loop. But it's weird to ask if each project needs help. So users end up working on their project solo, which is slow effort.

So how about this solution:

  • "Challenge" button within a Project page that allows a creator to comment on what are the current challenges/needs for their project?

  • This way other users (doers) can simply respond to Challenge and submit Results.

This would spark spontaneous cooperation between all users spread across many different projects and create a synergy moment, where by doing small tasks, together, these users kickstart all projects to the next level.

The same behaviour can repeat on the same level and shape cultural norms, i.e. instead of being stuck people would organise to help each other and solve all global challenges.

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功能要求:-添加“文化”作为项目类型。 -在合并,重复甚至用户意识到的情况下,用户可以通过单击按钮“存档”(使其变为“无声”帖子,但在主页上不可见)来“存档”问题或想法以前的帖子不再相关。存档的帖子可以在标题中加上“已存档”标签。 -要求思想家“澄清”问题或想法的按钮。 -使将现有的创意添加到现有项目变得更加容易(现在,创意以数字代码的形式添加,有时会产生错误)。 -启用查看问题和想法时编辑内容的“修订”,因为它显示了思想者的思考过程,对于其他用户来说很有趣/很有价值(例如WordPress网站具有此博客功能,Medium可能具有此功能) (也可以用于Blog功能。)-按钮“邀请成员”到项目。 -如果项目是社区/成员项目,则在“项目”下有子项目。

Feature requests:

  • Add "Culture" as a Type for Projects.

  • A way for users to "Archive" a Question or Idea by clicking a button "Archive" (so that it becomes a "silent" post but not visible on Home page), in cases of merging, duplication or even when a user realises that a previous post is not relevant anymore. Archived posts could have a label "archived" in headline or something.

  • A button asking a thinker to "Clarify" a Question or Idea.

  • Make adding existing Ideas to existing Projects easier (now, Ideas are added as number-codes, which sometimes creates an error).

  • Enable seeing "Revisions" of what was edited when updating a Question and Ideas, because it shows a thought process of a thinker and is interesting/valuable to see for other users (e.g. WordPress websites have this function for blogging, Medium might have this function for blogging too..)

  • A button "Invite a Member" to a Project.

  • Have sub-projects under Project, in cases if a project is a community/membership project.

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功能要求:-在移动设备上滚动至顶部按钮/图标-为现有创意选择现有项目

Feature requests:

  • Scroll to Top button/icon on mobile

  • Selecting existing Project for existing Idea


Ruta, 💤
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功能要求:-在首页上,在主要问题下方显示子问题。对于像我这样的用户,发布子问题有助于澄清思路,现在,在首页上,每个问题都显示在单独的一行中。但是对于读者来说,如果子问题没有立即(在主页上)看到层次结构,那么子问题就可能不清楚或看起来是重复的。

Feature request:

  • On homepage, show sub-questions under the main question. For a user like me, posting a sub-question helps clarify thinking and now on homepage, each question comes up on a separate line. But for a reader, sub-questions can be not clear or seem duplicate, if they dont see hierarchy straight away (on homepage).
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功能要求:-在“注释”框下显示“ Todo”,“问题”,“想法”等。现在,只有当我分享我的评论并且稍后单击“编辑”时,这些选项才可见。许多用户不知道这些选项可用,因为很少有人单击“编辑”。

Feature request:

  • Show "Todo", "Question", "Idea" and so on under a Comment box. Now, these options are visible only if I share my comment and later I click EDIT. Many users won't know that these options are available because few click "edit".
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功能要求:-单击评论中的用户名应打开该用户的电报,以便我可以私下向他们发送消息并要求澄清评论。现在,我单击一个用户名并结束其个人资料页面,单击“开始聊天”并结束此处https://io.0oo.li/direct/username,所以我发送了一条消息,但用户不在线,而用户可能在Telegram上在线,这将立即引起评论的澄清

Feature Request:

  • Clicking on a username within comments should open a Telegram of that user, so that I can message them privately and ask to clarify a comment.

Now, I click on a username and end up on their profile page, I click on "Start chatting" and end up here https://io.0oo.li/direct/username, so I send a message, but a user is not online, while a user may be online on Telegram, which would spark a clarification of a comment straight away

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[Ruta],知道了:)将其添加到工作队列中。 ^ __ ^很有道理。 7HUR = 70 USD-是的,差不多。汇率以[/rate](https://0oo.li/rate)每小时计算一次。

[Ruta], got it :) Will add that into work queue. ^__^ Makes a lot of sense. 7HUR = 70 USD -- yes, almost. The exchange rates are computed hourly, at /rate.

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功能要求:-将Markdown基础知识添加到s文本框中,以便像我这样的用户学会在0oo上清晰地书写(写子弹令人困惑,然后我在这里问您如何做)

Feature request:

  • Add Markdown basics to s text box, so that user like me learns to write clearly on 0oo (writing bullets was confusing before I asked you how to do it here)
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上一个功能请求:-在项目页面顶部而不是底部显示最新评论。因为每个项目页面都变成了一个很长的页面,即使有一些评论也无法滚动,这为想要阅读最新信息和评论的用户创造了等待时间

Last feature request:

  • showing the latest comments within a project page on top, not bottom. because each project page becomes a very long page to scroll even with a few comments, which creates a waiting time for a user who wants to read the latest and comment
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还有一项功能要求或说明:-用户声明小时数时,为什么余额也将这些小时数显示为美元?例如7HUR = 70 USD?我宁愿只声明自己选择的小时数或欧元,然后比较准确。

One more feature request or clarification:

  • when a user declares hours, why balance shows those hours as dollars too? like 7HUR = 70 USD? I'd rather declare only hours or euros of my choice then which would be more accurate.
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//要欣赏,喜欢,同意,不同意评论的表情符号// @user或[user]或其他哈哈。说得通。将添加这些。当然,并非总是需要响应,可能只想添加<3或ThumbsUp。

// emoticon to appreciate, like, agree, disagree with a comment // @user or [user] or smth else

Haha. Makes sense. Will add these. Definitely, not always one needs to respond, one may just want to add a <3 or ThumbsUp.

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功能要求:-欣赏,同意,不同意评论的符号或表情,而无需通过文本评论来回应-提及用户的符号,例如@user或[user]或其他

Feature requests:

  • a symbol or emoticon to appreciate, like, agree, disagree with a comment without a need to respond to it via text comment

  • a symbol to mention a user, like @user or [user] or smth else

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去中心化的发展和清晰的0oo数据库模型使我认为我们可以去中心化该系统,但这必须是它自己的一项新工作。

The advances in decentralization and clear 0oo database model, makes me think that we could decentralize this system, but it has to be a new effort of its own.

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我认为我们应该与分类帐(项目分类帐)方面的[opencollective.org](https://opencollective.org/)合作,并应该像0oo那样讨论所需的一般性。另外,考虑与[odoo.com](https://odoo.com)进行协作,因为它们可以使公司自己完成几乎所有业务运营,并且运行Odoo的公司可以轻松地将其部分数据从ERP发布到0oo对于公众。 (我们应该为所有ERP为此编写一个odoo模块。)

I think we should partner with opencollective.org on the ledger (projects ledger) side, and should discuss about desired generality, as we have on 0oo. Also, consider collaboration with odoo.com, as they provide the ability for companies do nearly all business operations by themselves, and companies running Odoo could easily publish parts of their data from ERP to 0oo for public. (We should write an odoo modules for that, for all ERPs.)

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我认为登录用户需要一个阅读器,该阅读器将允许阅读外部资源,并选择要导入到0oo的内容。例如,像/ reader / ideas这样的视图可以让我们像Halfbakery的读者一样使用0oo.li,并带有特殊按钮来导入我们喜欢的想法。同样,/ reader / projects可以让我们浏览和阅读公司等。

这将使0oo.li的用户像研究人员一样工作,浏览外部问题,想法,项目,并导入gems以便在此处进行讨论和工作。

就像我们的社区将拥有一个外部数据源的数据湖,并且能够导入值得我们社区关注的事物。

I think logged in users need a reader, that would allow to read external sources, and choose what to import to 0oo. For example, the view like /reader/ideas could let us use 0oo.li like a reader of Halfbakery, with special button, to import the ideas that we like. Similarly, /reader/projects may let us browse and read companies, etc.

This would allow the users of 0oo.li to work like researchers, browsing external questions, ideas, projects, and importing the gems for discussion and work here.

It's almost like our community would have a data-lake of external data sources, and be able to import things worth paying attention to for our community.

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我认为,我们应该作为全球性的免费公共服务运营,因为像Wikipedia这样的网站可以作为公共政治,创新和工作的基础设施。尽管通常公共服务仅限于特定国家/地区,但它们也可以像付款处理程序服务一样设计为同时支持多个司法管辖区...

I think, we should operate as a global and free public service, because this type of site, like Wikipedia, serves like a basic infrastructure for public politics, innovation and work. While usually public services are limited to specific countries, they, like the payment processor services, can also be engineered to support multiple jurisdictions simultaneously...

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使OpenERP具有REST API,并使公司列为0oo.li/projects,并使其自动在0oo.li/products上列出其产品?

Make OpenERP have REST APIs, and get companies listed as 0oo.li/projects and get them automatically list their products on 0oo.li/products ?

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0oo前端的当前问题:

UI如何起到破冰作用,并鼓励人们发表幽默的回应?

有哪些类型的想法?让不同的人都喜欢在0oo上分享他们的想法。

Current questions for 0oo front end:

  • How can UI work as an ice-breaker and encourage people to post humourous responses?

  • What types of ideas there are? So that diverse people feel welcomed to share their idea on 0oo.

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关于双重策略的思考:为用户数据的去中心化加密提供资金以使其能够看到自己的业务,并为服务的去中心化和取消所有权提供资金。

为什么?因为开发去中心化解决方案所需的资金量足够大,所以只能作为业务运营的一部分来提供资金。

Thinking, of double strategy: business that funds decentralization encryption of user data from being able to see itself, and funds decentralization and dis-own-ment of its services.

Why? Because it's the amount of funds needed for development of the decenralized solution is large enough, that can only be funded as part of the business operations.

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关于时间银行业务的一些想法:_“金钱将被定义为“无偿工作时间”-对一个人的公共债务,这是通过授予他们购买其他项目的结果的权利来覆盖的……” _

[视频](https://wiki.mindey.com/shared/shots/301ea6e53d99043b1cb297229-time-banking.mp4)。

重要的是在这种情况下,人们可以赚到有价值的(可追踪的工作)金钱:)

Kelios mintys dėl laiko bankininkystės: "Pinigai tuomet apsibrėžtų kaip "nekompensuotos valandos" -- visuomenės skola žmogui, kurią ji padengia duodama teises už jas nusipirkti kitų projektų rezultatų..."

video.

Kas svarbu, tai, kad tokiu atveju žmonės galėtų vertę turinčių (atsekamų darbų rezultatų) pinigų pasigaminti :)

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现在,我在想0oo的[/products](https://0oo.li/products)部分可以像CraigList一样工作,但支持人们自己的付款方式或批准付款的令牌。

Now, I'm thinking, that the /products section of 0oo could work a bit like CraigList, but supporting people's own payment methods, or tokens of approval of payments.

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// 感觉能看到一些思路和信息, 就是看不大明白咋回事咋操作的感觉,

其实,就这样,首页作为一种像“收件箱”的角色。所以,如果评论在一些过去的想法,大家会看见有在首页的没看完的话题。怎么看见?就是因为有新没有看过的评论的帖子成为黑色字体。

平时,你可以一周一次来看看,有没有什么新的有意思的内容,也可以订阅RSS。另外的描述都在/about里面。

我们还没有中文的描述视频。准备做一个:)然后,有可能需要一个订阅评论的功能吧?

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感觉能看到一些思路和信息, 就是看不大明白咋回事咋操作的感觉,

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考虑到这些想法,通过Metamask与以太坊连接,以选择将创新签名为ERC721代币是有意义的...

Thinking, for the ideas, it would make sense to connect with Ethereum via Metamask, to optionally sign innovations as ERC721 tokens...

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专注于设备和材料...将回答有关专有技术的大多数问题...

Focusing on equipment and materials... would answer most questions about know-how...

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是的,我们需要公开透明的直接贸易和产品交换。

Yeah, we need open and transparent direct trade and product exchange.

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思考-导入有关生产的数据时,不通过分销商而是通过Homebase将实际制造商直接与市场联系起来:)

Thinking -- when importing data about production, to connect actual manufacturers directly with the market, not via distributors, but via Homebase :)

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思考-每当在0oo上处理货币时,都会想像与发行这些货币的人交朋友。经济就是关系...

Thinking -- whenever dealing with currencies on 0oo, it's think of doing so like making friends with the people who issue those currencies. Economies are relationships...

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考虑其他功能:

-对于一般用户:能够立即联系许多聪明的人,以反馈对您精心设计的消息的巨大价值。我们已经有一些人在Telegram上,我们可以简单地邀请他们参加Zoom会议,并分享有关整个通知业务的信息(即,一旦有人发布,他们就会在Telegram上得到通知,并被邀请为已发布的内容提供反馈项目。)。因此,尽管我们已经邀请人们进入Telegram频道,但他们目前尚无关于此机制的信息,以及在收到有关0oo的新主题的通知后必须做什么。因此,我们应该组织Zoom会议开始这一过程。

-对于研究人员来说,是完整的数据库(例如SQLite)下载(或与下载器等效的API序列化程序)。

-对于交易和经营业务,这是对付款的支持。考虑到付款,虽然Stripe很不错,但我们必须支持使用任何方法的自由-从加密货币到银行,PayPal等传统货币。

-对于一般用户而言,拥有“一个收件箱”可能会很好-例如,将“类别”,“想法”和“项目”合并到一个统一的项目列表中,这些项目只是被标记并且可以过滤,而不必诉诸于Elasticsearch。

-IRC Server,为新帖子创建新渠道。

Thinking of the further features:

  • For general user: great value is in the ability to immediately contact many bright minds for feedback to your well-crafted message. We already have some people on Telegram, that we can simply invite to a Zoom meeting, and share about the overall notifications business (namely, that once someone will publish, they will get notified on Telegram, and are invited to provide feedback to the posted item.). So, while we had invited people already to the Telegram channels, they are currently not informed about this mechanics, and what they have to do once they get notification about a new topic on 0oo. We should therefore organize Zoom meetings to start this process.

  • For researchers, is the full database (e.g., SQLite) download (or just equivalently API serializers with downloader).

  • For trading and running business, it's the support for the payments. Thinking of payments, while Stripe is nice, we have to support freedom of using any methods -- from cryptographic currencies to traditionals like banks, PayPal, etc.
  • For general user, perhaps it would be nice to have "one inbox" -- i.e., merging "Categories", "Ideas" and "Projects" into one uniform list of items, that are just labeled, and filterable, without resorting to Elasticsearch.
  • IRC Server, to create new channels for new posts.
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在这一点上,我认为在交流部分,专注于使人们能够在市场上制造和扩展规模的工具和设备的贸易在战略上是有利的,因为这些都是在社会中创造价值的要素。

例如,电动工具,工业设备(例如采矿设备,农具,医疗工具和设备,实验室设备,批量生产设备,芯片制造设备等)的交易-这些就是使现代生活变得更美好的变压器和使能器可能。它们将最终帮助理解[诀窍图](https://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Technology_20Maps_20_99)。

贸易重点:

-工业设备和材料

-医疗设备和材料

-实验室设备和材料。

At this point, I think in the exchange section, it would be strategically advantageous to focus on trade of tools and equipment that empowers people to make and scale in markets, because these things are what creates value in societies.

For example, trading of power tools, industrial equipment, like mining equipment, farming tools, medical tools and equipment, laboratory equipment, mass production equipment, chip manufacturing equipment, etc., -- these are the transformers and enablers, that make modern life possible. They are what will eventually help understand the know-how graph.

Trade focus: - industrial equipment and materials, - medical equipment and materials, - lab equipment and materials.

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// 0oo含义:从零到无穷大?

是的,谁说我们应该做[0->∞](https://0oo.li),我们应该做[0-> 1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_to_One)?那些执行0-> 1的人通常无法获得扩展的好处,并保持贫穷。零到无穷意味着要集中精力-既要创建以前不存在的事物,又要对其进行缩放。 :)

// 0oo meaning: from zero to infinity ?

Yeah, who said we should be doing 0 -> 1, if we can do 0 -> ∞? Those who do 0 -> 1, usually don't get the benefit of scaling, and stay poor. Zero-To-Infinity, means a focus -- both to create things that didn't exist before, scaling it. :)

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0oo含义:从零到无穷大?

0oo meaning: from zero to infinity ?

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因此,现在我们从实际项目的分享开始,与问题领域专家共享该项目,希望将他们聚集在一起解决问题。

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// 如何使Telegram机器人在无需我浏览器的情况下发布想法,...甚至评论?这肯定会节省我在手机上的时间。.

我认为为每个类别,想法,项目配备一个Telegram机器人是最有意义的,这样在其中张贴的评论将自动与该主题的自动生成的Telegram频道同步。

但是,这意味着创建一个新的Idea就像创建一个新的Telegram频道一样。这可以通过Telegram API完成。但是,这种机器人必须使用电报用户的用户名在Homebase上自动创建新用户,并且在有多个用户名相同的用户时做一些理智的事情,基本上是在Homebase上生成帐户。自动创建组的方法是:

<pre>

从telethon导入TelegramClient,事件,同步

从telethon导入功能

api_id = XXXXXX

// How about making a Telegram bot that posts an Idea, ..., or even a Comment without me going to my browser? It would save me time on mobile for sure..

I think it would make most sense to have a Telegram bot for each Category, Idea, Project, and so that comments posted in them would automatically be synchronized with autogenerated Telegram channel for the topic.

However, that would mean creating a new Idea would have to be like creating a new Telegram channel. This could be done by Telegram API. However, that kind of bot would have to automatically create new users on Homebase, using usernames of Telegram users, and do something sane when there are multiple users with same usernames, basically generate accounts on Homebase. The recipie to automate creation of group is:

from telethon import TelegramClient, events, sync
from telethon import functions
api_id = XXXXXX # Get on https://my.telegram.org
api_hash = 'YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY' # Get on https://my.telegram.org
client = TelegramClient('session_name', api_id, api_hash)
phone = '+ZZZZZZZZZZZZ' # (verify with other live connection)
client.start()
# Doing stuff:
created_group = client(functions.messages.CreateChatRequest(
        users=['inyuki', 'mindey'],
        title='Intent 5: Creating Deep Connections and Love in Society'
))
chat_id = created_group.__dict__["chats"][0].__dict__["id"]
invite = client(functions.messages.ExportChatInviteRequest(chat_id))
print(invite.link)
# client.log_out()

And, I think this would not make sense by default, only perhaps to be customly enabled for certain ideas, when the conversation size reaches some point.

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如何使Telegram机器人在不使用浏览器的情况下将想法,项目,类别甚至评论发布到任何现有想法,项目,类别?这肯定会节省我在移动设备上的时间。

How about making a Telegram bot that posts an Idea, Project, Category or even a Comment to any of existing Ideas, Projects, Categories without me going to my browser? It would save me time on mobile for sure..

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这是[计划在明天执行的任务](https://dynalist.io/d/RZd5BSIuIh7vhYHj3nkGruk-),至少从我这边来说是这样的:)我觉得我需要想要成为管理员的朋友。

And here are the tasks planned out for tomorrow, at least from my side :) I feel like I need friends who would like to become administrators.

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在待办事项中,正在改进Markdown的渲染。目前,换行符无法正常工作,对此感到抱歉。将修复它。也许让我在这里写[github.com/infamily/homebase](https://github.com/infamily/homebase)...还是更好地使用Dynalist?实际看一下左侧的“错误报告”。

Among the todo items, is improving the rendering of the Markdown. Currently line breaking doesn't work as expected, sorry for that. Will fix it. Maybe let me write here github.com/infamily/homebase... Or, better use Dynalist? Actually look at the "Bug report" on the left.

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似乎需要清除许多内容,或[标记为删除]。

Appears like a lot of content needs to be cleaned up, or [marked-for-deletion].

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显然,[单页应用程序](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-page_application)效果不佳。问题很多。一方面-某人只想与某人共享一个页面,使他们下载整个应用程序,仅显示一个页面。

因此,现在,终于2020年,我决定尝试在纯Django的[infinity.family](https://infinity.family)上对其进行重做,而无需任何其他JavaScript。 ^ __ ^让我们看看如何吧〜

顺便说一句,所以,我仍在考虑将积压的位置。也许应该在我们使用的任何东西上,例如我使用Dynalist。或者,如果我们使用GitHub的问题,最好在此处将天总结作为任务结果。

Apparently, that single-page application didn't work out very well. Issues are numerous. For one thing -- someone who just wants to share a single page with someone, makes them download a whole app, just to show a single page.

So, now, finally 2020, I have decided to try to rework it in plain Django, right here, on 0oo.li, without any additional JavaScript. ^__^ Let's see how it goes~

Btw., so, I'm still considering, where to put the backlog. Maybe it should be on whatever we use, like, e.g., I use Dynalist. Or, if we use GitHub's issues, it would be nice to put day-summaries here as task results.

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大家好!因此,经过很长一段时间,Infinity有了一个全新的改版版本,并在一个新域[inf.li](https://infty.xyz)上。随时发表评论并提出问题。 :)

Hey, guys! So, after a little long time, Infinity is in a fresh new reworked version, and on a new domain inf.li. Feel free to comment and ask questions. :)

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我花费了{3} :),并期望它将花费另外{{0.5}。

I spent {3} :), and expect it will take another {?0.5}.

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我已经编辑了我的评论。

i have edited my comment.

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我认为这个项目很有趣。

I think this project is interesting one in there.

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咨询了自己{0.2}小时;){?0.1}

和视频:{0.3}:

[https://mindey.com/shots/0db4b367aef6eb779d3e13135-infty.mp4](https://mindey.com/shots/0db4b367aef6eb779d3e13135-infty.mp4)。

Consulted ourselves {0.2} hours ;) {?0.1} And video: {0.3}: https://mindey.com/shots/0db4b367aef6eb779d3e13135-infty.mp4.

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[aliev],[ruta]很长时间;)我们还在收到通知吗?

[aliev], [ruta], long time ;) Are we still getting notifications?

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若要仅在抄袭到我们的电子邮件地址时就能够共享关于盗版的随机电子邮件对话,就需要具有解析能力,其中电子邮件的哪一部分描述了问题,哪些描述了想法,等等。一堆电子邮件转发了,一封电子邮件可能有很多想法,也有很多问题,因此,随机发送电子邮件到idea@infty.xyz-并且infty会自动找出问题所在,想法是什么,等等?如果我们具有此功能,为什么不将网络上的任何信息扔给它,然后让它自动找出来呢? :)(我不是说我们将无法在不久的将来做到这一点,但不是在最近的EST。)

对于人为辅助的交互,我认为这更容易。例如,我在想如何在Wiki中写出我的想法,并用某种语法对其进行标记,例如{:post infty | this is content:},以便我的Wiki使用infty API进行发布对我来说。

因此,我们可以支持特殊标签,以便写电子邮件的人在将电子邮件转发到idea@infty.xyz之后可以使用它,然后,如果他们确实是infty的用户,并且他们的电子邮件来自预期的发件人,我们可以基于它创建内容项。

[ruta] to be able to share a random e-mail conversation on infty just cc-ing it to our e-mail address would require the ability to parse, which part of e-mail describes problem, which describes idea, etc. within a bunch of e-mails forwarded, and one email may have many ideas, and many problems, so, random e-mail to ideas@infty.xyz - and infty automatically sorts out what is the problem, what is the idea, etc? If we had this capability, why wouldn't we just throw any information from the web at it, and let it automatically figure this out? :) (I don't say we won't be able to do this in the near future, but not in the nearEST.)

As for human-assisted interaction, I think it is easier. E.g., I am thinking, how to write my ideas in my wiki, and just mark them up with some syntax, e.g., {:post it on infty|this is the content:}, so that my wiki would use infty API to post it for me.

So, we could support special tags, that people who write e-mails could use it when they forward e-mails to ideas@infty.xyz, and then, if they are really users of infty, and their e-mail is coming from expected sender, we could create content item(s) based on it.

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伙计们,我在想如何使人们更容易分享盗窃罪。

人们通过电子邮件进行了深思熟虑的讨论。我们有时间考虑要通过电子邮件说的内容,因为我们不必像通过实时聊天那样被迫回答。为什么不通过允许人们抄送ideas@infty.xyz来轻松地将此类电子邮件对话添加到infty中呢?这样,人们就无需离开一个可以进行对话的空间,但是他们仍然可以“保留关于盗版的知识并共享”。

([x.ai](https://x.ai/“ https://x.ai/”)的工作方式类似,您只需抄送AI)

[Mindey] [aliev] [george]

Guys, I was thinking how to make it easier for people to share on infty.

People have thoughtful discussions over email. We have time to think about what we want to say over email because we're not forced to respond just like we're over real-time chat. Why not make it easy to add such email conversations to infty by allowing people to cc ideas@infty.xyz ? This way people wouldn't need to leave a space where they have conversations but they could still preserve the knowledge on infty, and share it.

(x.ai works similarly, you just cc an AI)

[Mindey] [aliev] [george]

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[aliev]提出的一个过去的想法:如果评论看起来像是里程碑或任务,我们应该可以将其转换为里程碑。

One idea from the past by [aliev]: if a comment looks like a milestone, or a task, we should make it possible to convert it into it.

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您是否意识到人们在使用盗版软件时实际上可以保持匿名?对于讨论,我认为这是一件好事。可以注册一个免费的GitHub帐户,并向GitHub注册,一个人只需要一封电子邮件。 [Citizendium](http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Why_Citizendium?)曾尝试使用实名政策,但Wikipedia似乎对匿名作者来说还算不错。 ],[aliev]

Did you realize that people can actually stay anonymous while using infty? For discussions, I think this is a good thing. It is possible to register a free GitHub account, and to register with GitHub, a person only needs an e-mail. There had been an attempt on Citizendium to use real-name-policy, but Wikipedia seem to do just fine with anonymous authors... [ruta], [aliev]

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上图目前不能代表整个项目。但是,我会尽快将其制作成这样。评估Infinity项目的价值的问题在于,它有可能影响各个领域。我们正在谈论要通过Infinity项目创建的数百万家创业公司。

The graph above, currently is not representative of the project as a whole. However, I will try to make it such some time soon. The problem with evaluating the vaue of the Infinity project, is that it has the potential to affect diverse fields. We're talking millions of startup companies to be created via Infinity project.